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John Kelley 08-08-2011 07:45 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
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Originally Posted by cicero819 (Post 273575)
Instead of Pure Stock, this new series will be call SHOWROOM STOCK,These car woulf not compete against Stock eliminator, this would be a showroom Stock only with tire change only allowed.Claude

TIRE CHANGE ONLY ??? That's funny right there !
Are the engines going to be SEALED at the factory ?
If the manifold or heads come off you can BET they will be modified in some way !!
The "pickle juice " man will go over them a bit.......

Dan Fahey 08-08-2011 11:04 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 273869)
TIRE CHANGE ONLY ??? That's funny right there !
Are the engines going to be SEALED at the factory ?
If the manifold or heads come off you can BET they will be modified in some way !!
The "pickle juice " man will go over them a bit.......

Interesting..
Most of our ECIRS cars were basically Showroom Stock when we started.
Since we are a Bracket Race and Bragging Rights we modded our cars.
Over the last decade we have some fast Bracket Racers and Bragging Right Challenges.

I think the Showroom Stock (tech class) would not be a good solution.
The magazines drive products to produce stupid power.
Most Street Racers are not disciplined for Class Racing.

Serious Bracket Racers hang out at only a few local tracks.
Generally they are not Long Distance Travel Racers..

Showroom Stock would end up being a local gathering.

D

cicero819 08-09-2011 05:25 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
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Originally Posted by Dave Ribeiro (Post 272949)
@ We should be worrying about increasing payouts & lowering fees , not increasing classes ... Don't you think we have enough classes ?
How about Jobs ?

Dave, you're right, payouts should be increase to pay down more spots, to help racers. We could take a lesson, from the Modified and Super Modified running at Osweego Speedway N.Y and let individual who want to contribute to certain class to add some money for class winner and so on. I know that Gary Richard doesn't have to invest in drag racing but he does, mostly because he cares, one of the reasons whenever I have a chance and I need something electronic, I buy at PC. Richards and sons. Claude

Ed Fernandez 08-09-2011 06:25 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
Claude,is it me or do you see things in a different spectrum than most of us?

Quote Claude: We could take a lesson, from the Modified and Super Modified running at Osweego Speedway N.Y and let individual who want to contribute to certain class to add some money for class winner and so on. I know that Gary Richard doesn't have to invest in drag racing but he does, mostly because he cares

It will be a cold day in Hell before I would pay more than what these chizzlers are charging
us to enter div./nats.,to get better payouts.
And Gary is a bisnessman,and a very smart one.He will continue to sponsor the Div. 1
series as long as the bottom line dictates.His business will thrive with or without drag racing.The only product NHRA has is an ageing constituancy pushing a hasbeen product
that they are slowly choking financially.

X-TECH MAN 08-09-2011 06:32 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
Look out Ed. The older and young guys on here will jump on you like they do me over talking about Indy being to long, to expensive and just to much Pro junk there.....LOL.

Ed Fernandez 08-09-2011 07:04 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 274142)
Look out Ed. The older and young guys on here will jump on you like they do me over talking about Indy being to long, to expensive and just to much Pro junk there.....LOL.

Terry,I can't really comment on Indy,never been there.And with the current format and car I drive I probably never will.

cicero819 08-09-2011 09:30 PM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
Hi Ed, thanks again for the pills, tonight I feel real mellllllllllllow... No I don't want NHRA to make the money, the money the fans individually gives, goes on a board and is paid to the drivers because the fans want their racers to not go broke and come back and race again and again. Gary Richards could invest his money in TV or radio ads that would give him a thousand percent better return than investing in Div 1 racing but he does it because he wants and enjoys racing at those tracks, so why not support them I'm sure is his thinking. All I'm saying is we have to do something and sometime you have to put some of your own sweat and money behind. I've helped financially in the past our local track with some money when they couldn't make a full-purse to pay the racers, I did it because it helped them but also made sure that I had a track to race at. We have to look at the big picture. Ed it's too bad that you're not in Indy, we need different brands in stock, it's going to be CJ and DP country out there. They should be moved to Factory Stock, thus eliminating all the B.S. NHRA is causing older combinations.Claude

X-TECH MAN 08-10-2011 09:50 AM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 274152)
Terry,I can't really comment on Indy,never been there.And with the current format and car I drive I probably never will.

Ed.....You should go at least ONCE if only to watch class run offs in stock and S/S. Make it part of your "Bucket List" . The rest of the circus isnt worth watching.

Michael Beard 08-10-2011 10:34 AM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
I got to go once, and it was enough for me, to be honest. The atmosphere was great (not the DA, but the people and the scene!), and there was some good racing here and there, but the 1000' racing is a turnoff. With less classes and more racing it would be unbelievable. In my opinion, the Indy of today is no comparison to the US Class Nationals.

Mike Taylor 3601 08-10-2011 10:38 AM

Re: Pure Stock at divisionals, why not?
 
Watching class @ Indy is on my bucket list as is running @ Indy. I got to go in 07 on Sat.,Sun we left home @ 3am so we could be there a 7 am to see stockers run,Sunday night we stayed to around 11pm watching stock and super stock they announced 1 time that I heard that there was sportsman classes runnning later,none of the guys I was with even heard it.
The last 9 of 10 years I go on Sunday to Lucas oil @ Bowling Green I leave the house around 5am so I get there in time for first round of stock& ss well sometimes Sunday is second round.
I have been working my whole life to race on div. & natl. level ,dreaming of it since I was 4-5 years old working @ it since I was 18, now 43 still trying to get there,life keeps getting in my way,but I have this bad habit of keeping my priorities in order,my family and business have to come before racing.

I've been watching this post and my question is what is wrong with the pure stock that is already in existence in IHRA and has been for many years?
Mike Taylor 3601


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