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Where did you find that part number to order that engine?

I must have missed the part where you said that the engine pictured was in fact a 12.5:1/ 12mm lift engine. Those specs would have would have confused me as well.

I'm not 100% familiar with NHRA rules. I thought the specs posted were what you were allowed to do, in other words if you built one it could have 12.5:1 compression, I have never seen any mention of this "paper" engine anywhere else. I'd be very interested to find more info on it.

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Like Kris said, that Boss longblock used to be reasonably priced. Not anymore.:( I got my price quote in April, but was told the longblocks were back ordered until June.

Anyway, I saw on Ford's site where they now sell a 9.5 to c.r. crate 5.0 Coyote with Forged pistons and h-beam rods. Designed for boost in mind.($ 8,099)....it's a real crate engine, not a paper engine. Not NHRA legal tho.
It's $1,100 more than the reg. GT Coyote crate engine.

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I found the part number by looking it up in the Ford parts catalog. The engine pictured is not the 12.5:1 engine that is in the guide, it is a production Boss engine.

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The only "kids" I see at the track are the occasional 35 year old.The only young people I see racing are from Wyotech. Drag racing is generally a dead sport to the Gen-X ers.:(

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Drag racing is far from dead. Young people are just racing other places such as NMRA and NMCA, PSCA, etc. For the price of a Stocker, Super Stocker or Comp car, you can go heads-up racing and use easy-to-find aftermarket parts and be the show! Plus you get magazine coverage, the racing is intense, and the rules reflect what is hot today.

I am as much a purist about NHRA/IHRA Stock as anyone, but the current format has a shelf-life. Young people don't want to spend $40,000-plus to essentially bracket race and the folks building the new factory cars just want to run hard. So, where does that leave the future of Stock/Super Stock?

It needs to either evolve into more heads-up racing to attract sponsors or it will be a small side-show. Bottom line is that racers looking to go faster spend money and that supports what any advertiser wants. Racing is big business and we need the support of the aftermarket and the factories to make this machine go.

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Evan you hit it on the head! I myself am a Gen-Xer and I never gave the NHRA any thought for a number of reasons. I have always raced and followed the NMRA and the old Fun Ford Weekend, not because they were all Ford but because they had heads up classes that were exciting. Bracket racing to most people just isn't exciting. The NHRA could have a whole new breed of racer in the stock classes with a little rule tweaking.

BTW great job at MM&FF! What the hell happened to Campy? Was he always a closeted Chevy guy?

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I guess I don't get past the LODRS........NMRA?
http://www.nmra.org/
Drag racing trains?:D

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Evan is 100% right. There is a lot of heads-up racing going on. There are also a lot of young people competing. They just aren't that interested in Stock or Super Stock. The truth is that they can go way faster for the same money, run wide open, and get a lot of internet and print coverage.

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One thing not mentioned is, isn't the new GT 5.0 a variable valve timing engine?

Sad they don't have to include factory streeters to present their F/X style cars out now.

I do really love all these new cars, hope GM will be there next year and NHRA/IHRA re-introduce Top Stock. No break out. ego driven fun, lol.

Heads up is where its at with this new generation of motor heads.

Hitting the brakes before the finish line is not exciting to watch for most, and to hold back these new cars from wfo is a sin.

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A perfect class would be a mix of NMCA Mean Street, NMRA Pure Street chassis rules, NHRA Stock engine/driveline and EFI/Carb rules. Heads up, no index. That would give you three classes plus UMTR to run in.