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No body is saying that the program is going to change, but why was X-talk introduced? It was a way that both drivers could see the same light come on in Box bracket racing, in escence they are both leaving off the same light. Since we aren't using Boxes in S/SS, the rational would be to make it fair for both racers to have to at least make an attemp at the tree without the other one's knowlege of what happened in the other lane.
We are not idiots and not going to quit, just seeing the forest though the trees.
Just because you think that Ralf Nader and his supporters are jerks, they are keeping the checks and balances of politics alive so that you can say your opionions.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

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Casey, ralph nader and his crew are totally irrelevant in today's politics

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"if it bothers you that much, quit."

That's the mindset that is responsible for it being still a rule, 47 years later.

Don't you think fixing what is wrong with it, is preferrable to to changing hobbies?

All this rhetoric and nobody has YET given me a reason why it shouldn't be changed.

And, they won't... It's indefensible.

Doesn't that jiggle your brain just a little, that NO ONE can come up with a justification for giving free rides to some cars, when they did NOTHING to earn them?

Everyone needs to have the SAME CHANCE to red light.

Can you tell me why they should not?

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Claude,if you bring up this subject again I will personally flatten the whole territory of Canada till it resembles the Bonneville salt flats.You woke up the Godzilla of Irrelevence
again.Thank you very much.

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Awe crap, do the pros bitch about this ? Why go on and on "Its Futile"

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Oh no ,keep this going . ...Great entertainment. It's about as much as I can afford right now.

I love watching these verbal traps being set.

Such as:

"Instead, people post, "Oh, not again!!!" messages to try to negate the real reasons why It needs to be changed, and personal insults and ridicule from people who, when they can't come up with sensible comments advocating leaving it alone, try to direct attention away from the factual issues at hand, and rely on "killing the messenger"...
They can't defend it, because, it's so unnecessarily unfair to the first car to leave, it's indefensible.

Responded with :>>>>>


"Bill
I really think you need a different hobby, something a bit more soothing......................maybe meditation or yoga

Or maybe JUST BUILD A FASTER CAR!!!! "
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Bill, it isn't that no one can show you a reason, it's that no one can show you a reason you can agree with, or live with. There is a distinct difference.


What it is that makes you think you are the final authority on this subject, no one knows.

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it will never happen, but as bill has most eloquently explained it is UNFAIR.
before all the other fast car enhancements it was more fair, but not even !

captain jack

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There ya go.

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A long time ago, the powers-that-be were sitting around and trying to plan a path for drag racing involving the Sportsman racers and the time delay start. The starting system was in discussion, about the same time they were discussing "how can we continuously promote the sport, feed our advertisers, and keep the fans interested". They realized advertisers made money on speed equipment and there would be no money spent on speed equipment if everybody drove a car that never evolved into a continuously faster car. And if the speed equipment industry faltered, the advertising revenue would dry up and there goes a significant amount of income earned.
And if the status quo on race cars was "slow is good enough", then the fans would be bored to death, never to return.
So NHRA ingeniously merged all these concepts into one. Slower cars could still race but there was a carrot to going faster and faster as his budget grew. The racer figured out he might have an advantage by leaving second with a faster car than the other guy. He found that not only was leaving second an advantage but his faster car reacted on the starting line differently. Word spread and others wanted faster cars. Speed equipment flourished, advertising budgets increased and fans had something to marvel at. Everybody was happy except the slow guy. Too bad. :D

Now maybe this isn't really what happened or why we have the red light rule, but it may offer some reasonable ideas to Bill and others as to why it is the way it is.

Drag racing on any level is entered into based on a rule book. When I read and understand a rule book, I build a car to win. If my perception is that the first to leave is better, I might build a slower car than if my perception were reversed. Everybody has that option when they enter racing.