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There is nothing that says you have to build an original Drag Pak or CJ. Doug Duell's car was built before the Drag Pak cars were built and Ford had a Body in White Program in 2010 where you could buy a body and the trim pieces for about 10k. There were no limits to the number of body in whites built or clones that I know of.

Re: Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes
 

ED The new Super CJ motor would be well over 4000 pounds in GT/AA. I think GT/AA is safe (this week).

Sorry Chad for the spelling mistake.

I agree some of these new HP’s are way out of line and something needs to be done. But that is NHRA problem not Ford and Chrysler. You can’t blame racers for following NHRA rules.

Dgal Rules change with the times. We all don’t run stock cams anymore do we?

Sorry I can’t spend anymore time with you clown's tonight I must get back to work on my new CJ.



Chuck D just following the rules set by NHRA

Re: Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes
 

Charley,

I realize rules change with the times and we must adapt to the best of our abilities. That doesn't mean that this situation was created by a rule change. It is more like the NHRA is not enforcing their own rules fairly.

I have seen where some are laying the blame somewhat on the people like yourself in taking advantage of the misapplication of the rules or no application in this case. I have not blamed you, Jeff Teuton, or any of the others. I blame the NHRA for being so shortsighted and blind to the implications of their decision. Especially when there were similar situations in the past that took too long to rectify. Read this as the LT1s and the creation of the FI classes.

They have a map as to how to correct it. There is no reason to wait 3 years or even 3 months to fix it. The obvious fix is the Factory Experimental designation for these cars and for the Camaros if GM ever intends to follow the same path.

The only compelling reason not to do it or to defend their current classification is if racers running these cars feel the need for such an unfair advantage to make rounds. What is sportsman about that?

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You may be right about the availability of the pieces. I wasn't aware that Doug Duell's car was a pieced together car. Either way, his is the only one I am aware of and there doesn't seem to be any others out there. There must be a reason why people aren't following that path.

I know the reason I am not and it has to do with money. I had posted earlier that the price of the car is not the only expense. The corresponding spare parts and other items that go along with that type of change can be about as much.

Not all of us have unlimited budgets and not all of us can afford new parts. Most of my stuff is either used or discarded pieces that I have had to scrape together and resurrect with a lot of sweat equity. Granted, I enjoy that and take a great deal of satisfaction in making something work that someone else gave up on.

Situations like this one is taking a lot of wind out of my sails.

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Has anyone thought to put one of the new 5.4 supercharged CJ's in, say an old CJ such as a 69 Mustang? Do the rules allow that type of combo?

How about one of the "new hemi's" in a Savoy?

Just out there....

Steve

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Some news for you. Your new cars haven't been around 40 years yet. You can crow in 2050 not 2010. Some more news for you. No anonymous, non Stock Eliminator racing agitator is going to tell me what to do with my money or cars.

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First of all my first initial is with my last name in case you hadn't figured it out so I did use my real name. Second, I have been involved with a stock eliminator car the last two years even though I used to race in Super Stock. Third You can spend your money any way you wish but you asked for ideas and I furnished one.

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Jeff,
I'm using the quotes the same as you are. You have mentioned negotiating many times now and I'm trying my best to point out to you that Graham Light and his staff said they accepted the numbers that Ford gave them. There were no negotiations according to them. Sure some folks had to communicate at some level to get the cars in the sheets but the power figures were produced by Ford. nhra didn't get suckered. They claim in their letters they knew exactly what was going on from the beginning. Most of us don't see a conspiracy - we see collusion.

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Ok d. wydendorf, thats good - you have been "involved with" a Stock Eliminator car. Can we guess that you are "involved with" a new Stocker?

Ideas? When did I ask for ideas on this thread?

Re: Drag Pak/Cobra Jet FX classes
 

OK,It was on page 5 of the thread "NHRA are you really that blind or just stupid". After a while all these threads start to look the same. My biggest complaint is that the AHFS is not working and that is the problem. If the trigger was set lower (Like maybe .8 instead of 1.0 under) and the review took place more often or at 1 second under you automatically move up a class things would even out faster. I know there will always be someone who eludes the system but the big egos will iron things out quicker. The AHFS needs to react quicker with more gusto.