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Chris "drooze" Wertman 12-16-2009 10:09 AM
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It dosent get me fired up, and if there is a draw for a class like that for the spectators and the racers then maybe it makes sense, but its not STOCK.

I think its kinda funny that the many of the cars running competitive stock out there are as old as I am, there are obvious reasons, the "muscle car era" the factory package cars from days gone by etc.

Its really been a HUGE gap that has taken Detroit 35 friggin years to catch up, EPA, Customer Demand, etc....I mean when was the last 425 crank HP Dodge out there like the SRT8 ? Or Camaro, or Mustang, 1970 ?

But now those DO represent stock cars....

I believe there is a slot for everyone in racing , it dosent mean its the class they think they should be in.....

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 156998)
Maybe NHRA and IHRA should go back to pre electronic FI days like NASCAR rules. NOTHING newer allowed unless it has a carb, and no computer like the early SS/GT cars....lol. Now this should get you fired up.

X-TECH MAN 12-16-2009 10:31 AM
Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drooze (Post 157013)
It dosent get me fired up, and if there is a draw for a class like that for the spectators and the racers then maybe it makes sense, but its not STOCK.
I case you havent looked lately but STOCK isnt STOCK anyway. Just look at the new Dodge Challengers, Ford Mustangs BOTH without EPA certification and ya cant tag and register them for the street. Stock hasnt been STOCK eliminator for years. Neither is Super Stock a S/S catagory anymore. Its more like Pro Stock of the early 70's. Maybe NHRA should just change the names of the eliminators to Super Pro and Pro?

ALMACK 03-26-2010 10:25 AM
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I have been reading this thread with interest.

Can anyone update me on the latest on Ford's 352 (8.2 based) and 428 (351W based) engines as the OP was referring to ? Have they been run in competition yet ?

Gary Parker 03-26-2010 12:50 PM
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Stock isn't stock. I am sorry but I have a stock carb,intake head castings, wheelbase,hood(with no scoop) trunk,doors rotating assembly that is the same as it was in 1975, (except we get after market parts to keep from braking parts) . Stock front seats,I even have a stock driveshaft. They sold my car at the dealer, and it has taken years to make it run like it does. As for those who can only make underfactored cars run under the index, so be it. I am proud off what I have done to make my car run fast.

Bobby DiDomenico 03-26-2010 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Moock (Post 156941)
Bobby DiDomenico, The difference between IHRA crate motors and NHRA new mopar and mustang is electronic`s, they can hook up there laptop computer to change a lot things, maybe they need to change back to fuel injection and carb. class`s in NHRA. Tom

I understand that Tom,

Was just funnin' that neither of them came that way street legal from the factory so why do folks bad mouth IHRA?

Since there is no where near 50 or 100 of each of these cars built, that would seem to make the Buick Stage 2 455 and some Pontiac over the counter items open for approval right? Just wait till they take that little 600 cfm carb off the 351C and add a 780. ;-)

Greg Barsamian 03-26-2010 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Parker (Post 177590)
Stock isn't stock. I am sorry but I have a stock carb,intake head castings, wheelbase,hood(with no scoop) trunk,doors rotating assembly that is the same as it was in 1975, (except we get after market parts to keep from braking parts) . Stock front seats,I even have a stock driveshaft. They sold my car at the dealer, and it has taken years to make it run like it does. As for those who can only make underfactored cars run under the index, so be it. I am proud off what I have done to make my car run fast.
Amen! You should be proud of what you've done!

Greg

Ed Wright 03-26-2010 01:50 PM
Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines
 
Since they were actually sold at the GM dealers for street use, EPA certs and all, and the minimum production run no longer exists, maybe they will let the '97 SLP LT4 Pontiac Firehawks run SS. Just wishing.

Alan Roehrich 03-26-2010 01:53 PM
Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 177604)
Since they were actually sold at the GM dealers for street use, EPA certs and all, and the minimum production run no longer exists, maybe they will let the '97 SLP LT4 Pontiac Firehawks run SS. Just wishing.
By that same token, the 67 L-88 Corvette should be legal as well. :eek:

GUMP 03-26-2010 02:50 PM
Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 177604)
Since they were actually sold at the GM dealers for street use, EPA certs and all, and the minimum production run no longer exists, maybe they will let the '97 SLP LT4 Pontiac Firehawks run SS. Just wishing.
You ready to start bangin' gears?

Ed Wright 03-27-2010 08:47 AM
Re: FORD, 5 NEW S/SS Engines
 
I always did un til this time around. Last summer I made a pass in a stick car. Like riding a bikd. The Jerico shifts nicer than the old Doug Nash boxes. I thought you could buy an automatic Firehawk, am I wrong? Would be nothing new. :D


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