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JP1738 02-05-2025 03:54 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 709045)
I'm not talking about your nor your mom's daily driver, they ain't showing up to compete at BIG $ bracket races like the flings and if one does show up they ain't winning.

Ok well you did not specify that you were only talking about the pinnacle of bracket racing in the post I was responding to. We all know a minivan is not winning at the fling, but it can win sportsman at your local track. That's all I'm saying. I wish more people, young people, would get out and do that so our sport can continue to flourish.

When you threw out the 40k number, you said nothing about competing for big money. You said "Meanwhile bracket cars today cost around $40k on the low end to $175k on the high end....Nothing cheap about bracket racing today either." Nothing about that sentence indicates the caveat.

1320racer 02-05-2025 03:56 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Dawson, just an fyi, I bracket raced with a QJet carb atop the 396 and later the 454 in my Chevelle for 8 years and manually shifted the 3 speed trans in my Chevellle for the entire time I raced it, over 3000 passes, with the stock “staple” shifter, no gates, nothing to prevent the shifter from going from 1st gear to neutral, winning a lot of rounds and races, as well I manually shifted the 3 speed trans in my Firebird from the 1st pass in it back in 2008 and through 2018, again thousands of passes. Both cars were easy to drive, it was not challenging nor was it difficult to tune my Q Jet and predict its ET’s and neither had a 2 step. Maybe I’m a better tuner and more coordinated than some running stock eliminator. ;)

Well now I’ve clarified my statement about bracket cars for you but surely you knew I wasn’t taking about taking mom’s daily driver to a Friday night trophy race.

JP1738 02-05-2025 04:06 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Did they also have stock heads, intake, valve lift, flat tappet lifters, bore, stroke?

Also you don't run those combos now, why change if it was so easy? The tried and true formula for bracket racing is a 4bbl carb, transbrake, glide, aftermarket engine, big tires and methanol. 0 of that is common or legal in stock lol (unless it came with the right carb from the factory, all combos vary).

You may have found consistency and success with it in the past, but you can't argue it is the most effective way to bracket race. Otherwise 99% of accomplished bracket racers are doing it wrong lol.

1320racer 02-05-2025 04:10 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
My Chevelle was always more stock than maybe any stocker in the country!, right up to the day I sold it in 2008. Yes stock heads, manifold, carb etc. back in the day when I made my 1st pass in it running 15.34 at almost 4100 lbs. through full factory exhaust with exhaust manifolds and through 1999 IIRC and running in the 12’s

I sold it because I had run quicker and faster than I ever had plan to with it and didn’t want to cut up a real stocker that also weighed nearly 3900 lbs. to be legal as well as safe to run consistency deep in the 9s as it was capable of.

Jared Jordan 02-05-2025 04:47 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 709110)
My Chevelle was always more stock than maybe any stocker in the country!, right up to the day I sold it in 2008. Yes stock heads, manifold, carb etc. back in the day when I made my 1st pass in it running 15.34 at almost 4100 lbs. through full factory exhaust with exhaust manifolds and through 1999 IIRC and running in the 12?s

I sold it because I had run quicker and faster than I ever had plan to with it and didn?t want to cut up a real stocker that also weighed nearly 3900 lbs. to be legal as well as safe to run consistency deep in the 9s as it was capable of.

https://i.imgur.com/TquoMbSl.jpg

1320racer 02-05-2025 04:53 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
I know I’m your hero, imitation is the best form of flattery.:p

You’re WRONG again! Dawson and nich cares and liked my replies. p

Now run along son and get back to representing the scumbags you do!

littlemanjoe 02-05-2025 05:17 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Qualifying towards the top is very important. It's not easy to figure out how it all works. I'm still trying to figure it out myself. I have a ton of respect for the guys and gals that have it figured out.

Class racing is a totally different sport vs bracket racing where you can run your grandma's Buick Century. Bracket racing was created so even the fat kid stood a chance at winning a race.....lol

Mike
A/SA

Jared Jordan 02-05-2025 05:26 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Since you like to talk, will I see you at Indy, Groundstrap?

1320racer 02-05-2025 05:43 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemanjoe (Post 709116)
Class racing is a totally different sport vs bracket racing

Several of your competitors that replied here including the one that started this thread disagree with you and I personally know numerous stock eliminator racers that are/were bracket racers that too disagree with you.

goinbroke2 02-05-2025 07:30 PM

Re: How important is qualifying???????????????
 
This message is hidden because 1320racer is on your ignore list.

"how important is qualifying"

Just a reminder what the thread was about before being hijacked because you people keep responding and quoting him. How has this improved class racers lives? How has his extraordinary wisdom benefitted the thread???


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