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Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 534349)

What are the 'both ways' here? Seems consistent to me. If you stage on it, you own it, period.

Maybe the incorrect dial is allowed by the rules and maybe it isn't. In either case, if you stage on it, you own it.

Both ways comment would apply to those who say someone should be disqualified 4 an over the index dial........One which they did not submit.

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 534359)

'First' only applies if the infractions are of equal severity. If your opponent red-lights but 8 seconds later you hit the wall, you will be DQ'd for having the worse infraction.

I'm not sure where 'dial-in over index' would fall on the hierarchy of infractions; just pointing out that your 'end of story' statement because it is first would not be accurate.

Wrong.......

The first will always be the first......

Other than crossing the center line or outer boundary (wall)......

The first is a DQ......

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

I hope the SRAC and NHRA will address this and set the procedure and practices so we all know the rules.

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 534361)

Austin,

I think the 'Dialing Under The Index' section of Race Procedures, Section 2, Page 5 would cover it:

DIALING UNDER THE INDEX
Contestants in Super Stock and Stock have the option of dialing under
their class’ assigned index. It is the responsibility of each contestant to
place the selected time on the windshield and tower-side window prior
to each round of competition. Dial-unders may be changed between
rounds, including a rerun situation. All contestants not choosing to dial
under will automatically be handicapped on the basis of their assigned
class index. In cases where two cars of the same class are paired, the
race is conducted on a heads-up basis, regardless of any dialing under
considerations, and breakout rulings do not apply.

So, by the rule, you can dial whatever you like but you SHOULD be automatically capped at the class index. Interesting can of worms with this run, for sure.

"All contestants not choosing to dial under will automatically be handicapped on the basis of their assigned class index." This is what lead me to believe the system wouldn't allow a dial over your index to be entered. An "at or below" in the line of code.

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

Seems to me the rule is clear, must dial at least the respective index or lower. Why is it unreasonable to expect the dial-in to be correctly entered when starting line crew all have headphones to communicate to tower? I'm sure Jim had the dial visible on the car, I guess bottom line is to do your job and everyone else's.

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 534364)

Both ways comment would apply to those who say someone should be disqualified 4 an over the index dial........One which they did not submit.

When you staged, you signed off on it. The source of the dial is irrelevant.

The way the rule is written, there should not be a DQ for dialing over the index. Dialing under the index is simply a choice, and if you choose not to you "will" automatically be capped at the index.

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 534370)

Wrong.......

The first will always be the first......

Other than crossing the center line or outer boundary (wall)......

The first is a DQ......

Negative! The rule is FIRST OR WORST! If the second is worse than the first then second is out! If you red light and your opponent is light at the scale or his fuel is bad etc... he is out, you are back in. Period. Jim

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Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

If you are the one entering dial-ins on the computer and your "friend" is racing, just put in a dial-in over the index for the other lane. If it is caught, no harm no foul. But by current rules, if it is accepted, BINGO.....your "friend" wins.

New rule proposal. "If a dial-in is entered wrong by the tower and can be proven after the run, a rerun will be allowed."

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 534412)

New rule proposal. "If a dial-in is entered wrong by the tower and can be proven after the run, a rerun will be allowed."

Why should I have to subject my car to this just because you forgot to read your dial?

Re: Rd #3 Stock @ Atlanta

[QUOTE=Jason;534412]If you are the one entering dial-ins on the computer and your "friend" is racing, just put in a dial-in over the index for the other lane. If it is caught, no harm no foul. But by current rules, if it is accepted, BINGO.....your "friend" wins.

New rule proposal. "If a dial-in is entered wrong by the tower and can be proven after the run, a rerun will be allowed."[/QUOT

Old Rule: If your dail in is wrong, don't stage.