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Charlie A 07-27-2015 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Miller Jr (Post 477368)
Frank Jordan SS/X , He had some neat stories about that car, would have been cool to race in that era.

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Bob Park 07-28-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dhofer (Post 477731)
I found some old pictures your 1972. The brown two door wagon I was talking about looks like a 1956( so probably a 265 CI) but I can't tell for sure since I only have a small portion of the car in the picture. The name on the side is " Slater & Packered" I think and it has " Points Champion" Toronto International Raceway on the side. I can't scan the photo but I hope this helps
Dave

I built that 57 wagon in 1967 and sold it to Bob Slater after I got married in 69'. It was a 265 cu in with a 3 spd stick. I still have all my paper work from back them somewhere. In 72' he broke his leg in a car accident and called me to drive it. We won 19 out of 26 eliminators that year. It would run a .10th under anywhere and the only guy to beat me if it didn't break a trans or clutch was the late Joe Kenney at a now long gone track called Golden Horeshoe Dragway outside Toronto Ontario.. The guys who raced then still call me the cheater or the leaker for using a removable plug from the rear of the carb in 2nd gear. NHRA outlawed the vacuum leak in Aug of 72'. I gave the car and the money it won back to Slater that fall and never saw or heard about it again..http://www.classracer.com/classforum...cons/icon6.gif

dhofer 07-29-2015 06:23 PM

Re: Ss/x
 
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Originally Posted by Bob Park (Post 477922)
I built that 57 wagon in 1967 and sold it to Bob Slater after I got married in 69'. It was a 265 cu in with a 3 spd stick. I still have all my paper work from back them somewhere. In 72' he broke his leg in a car accident and called me to drive it. We won 19 out of 26 eliminators that year. It would run a .10th under anywhere and the only guy to beat me if it didn't break a trans or clutch was the late Joe Kenney at a now long gone track called Golden Horeshoe Dragway outside Toronto Ontario.. The guys who raced then still call me the cheater or the leaker for using a removable plug from the rear of the carb in 2nd gear. NHRA outlawed the vacuum leak in Aug of 72'. I gave the car and the money it won back to Slater that fall and never saw or heard about it again..http://www.classracer.com/classforum...cons/icon6.gif

Thanks for sharing the story of the 57 wagon. it brings back a ton of good memories of racing back then. They never had a problem with car counts then. The pits were always full.
Dave

1720 08-03-2015 09:59 PM

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“As far as who the "hitters" were in SS/X...Kronenbitter would be top spot with the "Bits-n-Pieces car.”

“Vacuum leaks were hard to stop back in those days on those Rochester 2 barrels”

These thread comments have brought back many memories. My brother and I ran SS/X in a '60 Chevy, 283/3 speed stick in the '72 season, attending the 72 Indy Nationals only to get "caught up" in vacuum leak deal. The Bits-N-Pieces car was pitted near us and offered a couple shifter side plate linkages after breaking. http://talbotracingteam.wink.ws/indy%20letter.htm

We never did qualify, but it was an experience that turned us to Brackets the next season!
Ralph T.

dhofer 08-04-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1720 (Post 478365)


“As far as who the "hitters" were in SS/X...Kronenbitter would be top spot with the "Bits-n-Pieces car.”

“Vacuum leaks were hard to stop back in those days on those Rochester 2 barrels”

These thread comments have brought back many memories. My brother and I ran SS/X in a '60 Chevy, 283/3 speed stick in the '72 season, attending the 72 Indy Nationals only to get "caught up" in vacuum leak deal. The Bits-N-Pieces car was pitted near us and offered a couple shifter side plate linkages after breaking. http://talbotracingteam.wink.ws/indy%20letter.htm

We never did qualify, but it was an experience that turned us to Brackets the next season!
Ralph T.


Ralph
We also attended Indy 72. Our SS/W car was also "caught up" in the "carb leaking" mess and we also didn't qualify. We did have the fastest "W" car there but got beat on a hole shot. Given a heads up on the rule change I know we could have gotten to the record with a cam and gear change. I remember your letter to the editor well since all the cars had to run on the records and they were all set the same way. You did a great job of expressing the frustration of all the "X & W" competitors that made the trip to Indy and were blindsided by the rule change. In "W" we weren't in as bad of shape since the min. was never broken but still a hard number to hit.
Originally we just didn't tighten the carb down tight and that worked pretty well. Later we tried different things. The car ran best when we drilled and tapped the underside of each intake runner in the intake manifold and installed a carb. jet I can't remember what size but the air came from the breather tube at the back on the motor, the carb jetting was adjusted accordingly to match the increased air flow. In any case the motor really responded to this and the car flew.
Dave

mtkawboy 08-04-2015 07:33 PM

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The leaks never stopped, they just became a bit more sophisticated, I was there, P/S 59 Biscayne 283/185 4 speed. Was it wrong, yes, I guess it was but if every car that cheated a little got tossed there would be no one there to race.

Charlie A 08-04-2015 08:42 PM

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