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C and W Racing 12-11-2011 07:32 PM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryGoFast (Post 298242)
Does anyone think Index racing as presented in D2 now has a chance of being the future? Heads up racing , no stops, fast cars and dragsters would have their own index type scenario.

I don't think it will. As the year went on they had less and less in each class. How is it going to survive when each class probably averaged less than ten cars. I'm not doubting that it may be a challenge to dial your car, but that is where the problem will be. The ones that struggle to dial their car will stop going. Most everyone in the super classes can dial their car. Now it becomes cutting a light and driving the strip.
Chuck

Tom DePascale 12-12-2011 08:46 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Can't we get back to why Tommy D is ......xxxx
Ok Rock what does that mean !!!!!!!! Or I should not ask????Lol

C and W Racing 12-12-2011 09:16 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Tommy, I've been wondering the same thing. First throat surgery, Now multible hospital stays. Next year are you going to be Tammy De? lol
Chuck

CBS 12-12-2011 09:55 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

We have pretty good motors in our cars....and the dragster runs 186 at 890 and our car runs 168 at 990....how fast would they go at 8.00 and 9.00....don't even start with talking about increasing the spectator appeal...or participation....people just don't care about anything but fuel cars.....they hardly watch pro stock....and you're worried about not understanding the throttle stop racing.....

Chris...look what you started....lol

TS310C 12-12-2011 10:31 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick (Post 298127)
Mr. CBS, is the SRAC, still active? Maybe if it is, this would be a idea that should be brought up with the association, in that a 7.90 class maybe a thing to look into. Seems like there is some interest. Also, when you ask about the 7.90, try and see if they can get the re certification of the window nets move back to at least 5 years. The people I talked to at the association, stated, that they did not have any warning or advance notice and don't have a clue of why it is at two years. :o

Unless you have a mesh style window net, they don't expire. The ribbon type (most common) are good forever. Or until they fall apart. I have argued this with a couple of tech officials. It's right there in the rule book.

Bob Verwold 12-12-2011 11:46 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TS310C (Post 298330)
Unless you have a mesh style window net, they don't expire. The ribbon type (most common) are good forever. Or until they fall apart. I have argued this with a couple of tech officials. It's right there in the rule book.


The new rule book ???

Don't think so.

TS310C 12-12-2011 11:58 AM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Verwold (Post 298338)
The new rule book ???

Don't think so.

It appears I stand corrected. They must have changed that, because it used to only be for mesh type. I actually had that pointed out to me when getting my chassis certified. He told me I didn't have to worry about my net since it was the ribbon style. But that was a few years ago. I checked the new rule book at it does appear it's been changed. If anyone knows different, let me know.

JThomas 12-12-2011 12:28 PM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CBS (Post 298324)
Just trying not to beat the dead horse again.....

Speeding up the indexes would do what....make you feel better?.....Or just raise the speeds another 5 mph...and then everyone would complain how the speeds are out of hand and a limit needs to be put in place.....lol...not sure what your goal is with speeding up the indexes.....I just don't see it....we voted on it last year and it was voted down....

l

Not trying to be a smart *** but since you are a SRAC member, how long do you think the index should stay at 8.90 ? Forever ?

In 1985 when I started, a dragster that went 8.60-8.70 was a pretty quick car. At any bracket race you were either the fastest or close to it. Today an 8.70 dragster at a bracket race is not only the slowest dragster there it is also slower than 1/2 the door cars.

I agree that you will not get spectators even at a 6.90 index (now we're talking:D). But how do you explain to a newbie you bring along to the races why that Mustang AAA/S stocker and many SS cars just went quicker than your dragster goes ?

A new 7.90 class will NEVER happen as the track operators want less payout not more. It would just be less S/C cars.

The result of the vote taken was that the majority of the S/C racers wanted the index lowered. They just did not agree on what to lower it to. The way that vote was presented, the outcome was determined before the vote was taken with 3 options.

So how long do we keep 8.90 ???

CBS 12-12-2011 12:55 PM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Why change it????

Because a stocker or super stocker can go that fast has nothing to do with Super Comp....

My vette is much more violent than my mustang but much slower in ET...so what.....is this an ego thing...(that wasn't a shot at you) but it just drives the cost and speed up....and its still the same...just quicker...

we have bigger issues like seat belts and window nets and the cost to go to the races in general....

Race in TD if you want to go fast....that's why it was brought on....

Bob Verwold 12-12-2011 01:15 PM

Re: Time to Revisit the Super Times?
 
Rock,

Not trying to switch topic but, but how is it that S/St pays the same entry fee and the payout is $200. less than S/G & S/C ?
Does the "entry level" apply here ?


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