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Alan Roehrich 11-22-2011 06:57 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
There are stud conversions that do not require machining.

You are allowed to drill and tap for screw in studs anyway.

The question would be, if NHRA requires the OEM configuration, what does NHRA consider the configuration of the Olds and Ford 5.0 to be? It's not a shaft mount, by any stretch. But neither is it a stud mount.

I'd suggest anyone considering making changes wait until at least after the PRI Show next week in Orlando, and what ever you decide, get approval from Glendora in writing, and keep it with the car at all times.

SS Engine Guy 11-22-2011 09:40 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Aftermarket rockers. And more spring pressure. And nothing about ratios which will work much better with different ramp angles on cams which will require more spring pressure. Speeding up opening and closing intervals. And you can only get so much spring without bigger diameter valve pockets. (next change) Sounds reasonable to me------------In SUPERSTOCK. If you can't make a stock rocker live with the mods allowed you probably should be running in a class that already allows aftermarket rockers. Not screwing up a class that is screwed up enough by all the whining, and aftermarket BS that has already been allowed. As many have stated deregulating spring pressures caused this.

Just what we need, or so I'm told, more classes. I thought the manufacturers wanted less classes? Which is it?

buzzinhalfdozen 11-22-2011 10:52 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
You know I wondered how long it would take for these folks to find 1 more thing for us to spend our money on. Guess buying a new window net every 2 years won't break the bank but where does it end? Heck we've got the local circle track racers buying our outdated belts to run....they have no time limit rules, guess they're alot less likely to crash.

Bernie Cunningham 11-23-2011 01:26 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy (Post 294977)
Aftermarket rockers. And more spring pressure. And nothing about ratios which will work much better with different ramp angles on cams which will require more spring pressure. Speeding up opening and closing intervals. And you can only get so much spring without bigger diameter valve pockets. (next change) Sounds reasonable to me------------In SUPERSTOCK. If you can't make a stock rocker live with the mods allowed you probably should be running in a class that already allows aftermarket rockers. Not screwing up a class that is screwed up enough by all the whining, and aftermarket BS that has already been allowed. As many have stated deregulating spring pressures caused this.

Just what we need, or so I'm told, more classes. I thought the manufacturers wanted less classes? Which is it?


X2 , where the heck did this come from ????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just go ahead and dilute us again cause of a few whinny people (or rich) get there way!!!! sounds like US politics, buggar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan Lattimore 11-23-2011 02:21 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 294930)
I wonder what will be acceptable for pedestal mount rocker arms like Olds or some Fords?

Jim, You have a pm.

keith ohanesian 11-23-2011 10:11 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
I just want to change my seat so when some dude having a mid-life crisis crosses the centerline behind me in his 8.50 9 inch tire car and punts me like a feild goal kicker, my seat doesn't fall apart.. Oh! Or me... But hell everyone else wants roller rockers and pro stock spring pressures.

Mickey Whaley 11-23-2011 11:01 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keith ohanesian (Post 295053)
I just want to change my seat so when some dude having a mid-life crisis crosses the centerline behind me in his 8.50 9 inch tire car and punts me like a feild goal kicker, my seat doesn't fall apart.. Oh! Or me... But hell everyone else wants roller rockers and pro stock spring pressures.

The seat must not be important keith just get a nice window net instead

Sam Murray 11-23-2011 11:32 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Cunningham (Post 295035)
X2 , where the heck did this come from ????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just go ahead and dilute us again cause of a few whinny people (or rich) get there way!!!! sounds like US politics, buggar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X3 Bernie!!

I hope all the whiners and cry babies are happy!

jmcarter 11-23-2011 11:39 AM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keith ohanesian (Post 295053)
I just want to change my seat so when some dude having a mid-life crisis crosses the centerline behind me in his 8.50 9 inch tire car and punts me like a feild goal kicker, my seat doesn't fall apart.. Oh! Or me... But hell everyone else wants roller rockers and pro stock spring pressures.

Agree 1000%; like Alan and others have said, the new rockers will just move the weak link to another component (my spare $1200 "OEM" rockers now being virtually worthless), meanwhile they want us to spend $ on 'safety changes' that make the SCCA crowd laugh. Guys wearing their pajamas brought about the pant rule (which I agree with because it truly advances safety) and now others whine because they can't fix their rocker arm issues and cause everyone to spend a bunch of money to update their stuff which they worked to figure out and make work. Chances are the net thing is just because some racers use raggedy old nets so NHRA wants to uphold the "appearances". I guess well anchored true racing seats just makes too much sense, besides wouldn't want to violate the spirit of "stock". Take a good look at some of the 'stockers' that some master craftsmen have built and tell me how a good seat would in any way take the car away from 'stock'. Give me a break..

Stocker 2 11-23-2011 12:33 PM

Re: 2012 Rules Are Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Murray (Post 295066)
X3 Bernie!!

I hope all the whiners and cry babies are happy!

They are! Once again they got their way. To He// with everyone else.


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