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Steve Stasko 07-09-2025 12:44 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
The third pic with no lettering isn't the same car.

As far as the timeline, SS first, then CMP.

dc1320Fan 07-09-2025 04:30 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
As Steve Stasko stated above, the 3rd photo is someone's cloned car.
The S&M cars were all painted in the beginning by Red in his home garage. He did have a teen son that worked with him (Tommy?) Red did not work in a dealership. Worked for many years at Western Electric in Burlington until he retired. Tommy would be in his 70's now. The Superbird was at Red's house when I started there Dec 1969 but I did not see it until it was painted. The front fender vents and side marker lamps had been removed and filled as well.
The race car had a Hemi, 4speed. The street/clinic car was 440/auto. See post #42 about 2nd car.
The race car was SS/E first raced at the Blaney SC Div 2 points meet in 1970 and later that year at Dallas in CM/P. Herb was the last to race the car at Pomona in 1971in CM/P. Then it was sold to Norm Perha in Baton Rouge.
Again, refer to post #42 concerning 2 cars

gtx6970 07-09-2025 08:25 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc1320Fan (Post 714146)
As Steve Stasko stated above, the 3rd photo is someone's cloned car.
The S&M cars were all painted in the beginning by Red in his home garage. He did have a teen son that worked with him (Tommy?) Red did not work in a dealership. Worked for many years at Western Electric in Burlington until he retired. Tommy would be in his 70's now. The Superbird was at Red's house when I started there Dec 1969 but I did not see it until it was painted. The front fender vents and side marker lamps had been removed and filled as well.
The race car had a Hemi, 4speed. The street/clinic car was 440/auto. See post #42 about 2nd car.
The race car was SS/E first raced at the Blaney SC Div 2 points meet in 1970 and later that year at Dallas in CM/P. Herb was the last to race the car at Pomona in 1971in CM/P. Then it was sold to Norm Perha in Baton Rouge.
Again, refer to post #42 concerning 2 cars
Thanks for your help . This gives me some direction

Frank Castros 07-10-2025 10:58 AM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
Steve,
Are the red, white and blue colors Plymouth colors and if so would you know the paint codes
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank

Steve Stasko 07-10-2025 02:01 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 714177)
Steve,
Are the red, white and blue colors Plymouth colors and if so would you know the paint codes
Thanks in advance for your consideration and reply.
Frank
B7 Blue, R4 Red, W1 White.

gtx6970 07-10-2025 07:13 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc1320Fan (Post 714146)
As Steve Stasko stated above, the 3rd photo is someone's cloned car.
The S&M cars were all painted in the beginning by Red in his home garage. He did have a teen son that worked with him (Tommy?) Red did not work in a dealership. Worked for many years at Western Electric in Burlington until he retired. Tommy would be in his 70's now. The Superbird was at Red's house when I started there Dec 1969 but I did not see it until it was painted. The front fender vents and side marker lamps had been removed and filled as well.
The race car had a Hemi, 4speed. The street/clinic car was 440/auto. See post #42 about 2nd car.
The race car was SS/E first raced at the Blaney SC Div 2 points meet in 1970 and later that year at Dallas in CM/P. Herb was the last to race the car at Pomona in 1971in CM/P. Then it was sold to Norm Perha in Baton Rouge.
Again, refer to post #42 concerning 2 cars
Ps, was the SS/E car still be hemi 4spd ?
C/MP I know is but thats when it got the rat roaster intake and more mods I assume

dc1320Fan 07-10-2025 08:23 PM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
The Superbird race car was an original hemi car off the assembly line. Street hemi version 10:1 compression, 2 carter 4bbl/ 4 speed. fit the SS/E class well at 3800lbs+. It used the Edelbrock "Rat Roaster" intake which was legal for street hemi's in late 69.
When the car was converted to CM/P it had a hood scoop installed with an "A990" cross ram and Holley's as I recall. The super stock 10:1 engine would have been replaced with a 12.5:1 compression race engine as well.

gtx6970 07-11-2025 11:01 AM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
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The Superbird race car was an original hemi car off the assembly line. Street hemi version 10:1 compression, 2 carter 4bbl/ 4 speed. fit the SS/E class well at 3800lbs+. It used the Edelbrock "Rat Roaster" intake which was legal for street hemi's in late 69.
When the car was converted to CM/P it had a hood scoop installed with an "A990" cross ram and Holley's as I recall. The super stock 10:1 engine would have been replaced with a 12.5:1 compression race engine as well.
Thanks all

Gives me a path to go forward

dc1320Fan 07-11-2025 11:38 AM
Re: Sox & Martin Superbird aka SuperChicken
 
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These are the best photos I have
Hope they help


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