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art leong 09-03-2010 09:02 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 207820)
My suggestion is to email and/or call Alex D. and pester him.....lol. He will probably kill me for saying this. He really knows whats involved in something like this. We were heading this way a couple of years ago before the economy tanked. If it had been tried then it would have been financial suicide. Maybe the timing might be better this time around? Its a possability there might (and its a big maybe) be another USCN next year depending on how things work out. Ya never know ! There is so very much to consider and do with such an undertaking as that. Lots of details and liability involved. I know if Im involved the new stuff (DP's and CJs) will be in thier own class or have a bunch of HP tagged onto them if it happens. If certain ones can no longer make stock then so be it. Super Stock it will be for them. You cant have another INDY class race happen such as we all just saw. Id love to see some certain NHRA guys help out if it happened but its highly doubtful as in the case during the USCN #1. It was thier loss. Just my opinion and 2 1/2 cents worth.

Well if there is another Class Nationals and you decide to write your own rule book. You can count me out (you probably would anyway).
The Class Nationals was a success right around the time all the belly aching was going on about the EFI cars. And the Trucks.
You talk about the new cars not being able to run stock if they get factored? Giving them 100 horsepower won't keep them out of stock, unless you rewrite the rulebook.

X-TECH MAN 09-03-2010 09:16 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
See.... its started already with the mention of something. What would YOU do? Leave the mess NHRA started as is and just pretend the problem would go away? The best suggestion I have seen on here has been to let them have thier own class until things catch up like IHRA has done. Nothing EVER changes on this forum ! Just keep getting screwed and enjoy it. Have fun !

art leong 09-03-2010 09:24 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 207827)
See.... its started already with the mention of something. What would YOU do? Leave the mess NHRA started as is and just pretend the problem would go away? The best suggestion I have seen on here has been to let them have thier own class until things catch up like IHRA has done. Nothing EVER changes on this forum ! Just keep getting screwed and enjoy it. Have fun !

Terry I'm not being sarcastic But where do these cars run in IHRA? I know they run seperate fuel injected classes. And usually they follow NHRA on the horsepower ratings.
Do they seperate the DP's And CJ's?

Bruce Noland 09-03-2010 10:53 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
IHRA runs them in separate classes. Probably in some sort of computerized/injected classes.

Mike Carr 09-03-2010 11:02 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
Yes, IHRA still has the old A/FI through M/FI classes, seperate stick and auto classes. Last July they added AA/FI and AA/FIA, for "2008 and accepted factory muscle cars only. No existing FI cars can remove weight to move to AA". 7.5 to 7.99 pounds/HP

Sounds to me like they need BB, CC, and DD/FI also, now.

Alex Denysenko 09-03-2010 11:05 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
Last year we invited George Wright and Jimmy Ronzello to come race with us at the Martin IHRA national event. (he was runner up by the way)
Prior to the race George contacted Mike Baker at IHRA to verify a class.
At that time Mike Baker took the high road and immediately created AA/FI and AA/FIA for the CJ Mustangs with their own indexes.
Jim and George raced in AA/FI class.
He was quite adament about not allowing the new CJ's to run rampant in IHRA, yet also did not want to discourage anyone from racing one either.
Mike Baker did the right thing.

I assume that he will do the same for the DP and 10 CJ cars on a similar vane.

BB/FI or BB/FIA, CC/FI-CC/FIA etc.

To the best of my knowledge Ronzello has been the only CJ to ever run in IHRA stock and Roy Hill ran his 10 CJ in SS.
No DP's have raced in IHRA as of yet that I know of.



See link below.


http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r2009#indextop

Sean Cour 09-04-2010 12:07 AM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 207863)
Yes, IHRA still has the old A/FI through M/FI classes, seperate stick and auto classes. Last July they added AA/FI and AA/FIA, for "2008 and accepted factory muscle cars only. No existing FI cars can remove weight to move to AA". 7.5 to 7.99 pounds/HP

Sounds to me like they need BB, CC, and DD/FI also, now.

Mike......Now I know how I could utilize the door space on the CJ. I could put the new class on it....AA/FIASC! AA/fuel injected auto supercharged! Really????? How bout NHRA fix the Effin problem with the factors! Everyone just saw the joke on the Big Stage.....now FIX IT!

sc371f 09-04-2010 12:07 AM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
I can honestly say that I didnt pay attention much to the CJ's before today. They really need their own class! Roy Hill and others proved it today.


http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/h...ncamera021.jpg

CJ broke on the starting line

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/h...ncamera023.jpg

Obvious fans

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/h...ncamera039.jpg

Class win

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/h...ncamera040.jpg

But not for the CJ....

Lee Valentine 09-04-2010 11:24 AM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
I believe if the CJ's and Drag Packs are given thier own class NHRA will promote the hell out of it and forget the rest of us or drop us. The answer is to just get the factor right.

John Leichtamer Jr 09-04-2010 02:05 PM

Re: Lack of integrity
 
If they get the HP they need they will be gone from stock.
you can add only so much weight to make class.
nhra has to have a shipping weight on these cars, what is the limit
for added weight.
it will get the lower class dp where it belongs.aa/sa, a/sa.

Hammer


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