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RJ Sledge 09-05-2009 04:28 PM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
442

I have heard from a Chevy racer that his engine builder also builds some fast 340 motors and they will make 500 hp on his dyno. Thats seems to me a pretty close figure, IMO.

The thing that amazes me is that there are over 17 340/289 cars that have run 1.00 under (1.275 to 1.03) the first 6 month period according to Nitro Joe's Stats. He shows a total of 33 340/289 making Sea Level passes in the same period. They are from all over the country and I only counted Sea Level runs. To say they need some HP is up to NHRA. What do you think?? Its pretty obvious to me, but then I drive a Fairlane with a School Bus motor in it.

Todd

They are in "G" Bud!! But I don't think that Ponitac has much to worry about.

R J Sledge

R J Sledge

Kirk Morgan 09-05-2009 06:00 PM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
Wow that is overwhelming numbers for that combo. Almost wants me to sell all of my junk and build that combo. But then i would have to listen to all of the Fiat jokes!

Greg Hill 09-06-2009 08:07 AM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
A good stock eliminator motor needs to make about 1.5 times it's rated hp on a conservative dyno. The 340 low compression Mopars do a little better than that. My motor does a little worse than that. All that being said there is more to making a stock eliminator car run that just the motor. These days you need a really trick trans, good converter and a whole lot more.

RJ Sledge 09-06-2009 07:57 PM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
Greg

I agree with you........even if you do drive a Chevrolet. Does the fact that so many of these car running the 340/289 combo can run so far under surprise you? I hope that after Indy they (NHRA) will take a good look at the combo. I am not trying to sound mean, but what other combo in E and F have so many cars capable of running that far under. Are there many cars like yours that run that far under? I realize that its a "killer" combo, but I for one believe they need some HP. Indy proved that, even Ray Charles could see that!.

See you soon

RJ

Greg Hill 09-07-2009 06:37 AM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
RJ, I agree with you, even though you drive a Ford. Oh by the way I now own a new Ford Flex. First Ford I've ever owned and love it.

Greg Hill 09-07-2009 06:39 AM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
442 it looks to me like your motor needs to make about 540 hp to run 1.25 under. also everything else would need to be really good to do that.

mitch kight 09-07-2009 07:32 AM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!

james schaechter 09-07-2009 07:50 AM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mitch kight (Post 138961)
First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!

I remember seeing yours at the Orlando test session. I think it was when you sold it. Went in the high tens if I remember right. I just remember it being so fast, I figured one of those with a stick would be killer.

A lot of fast ones out there. I think it is hilarious how this thread started though. BTW I saw one in the barn too. No issues. Good combo for sure.

RJ Sledge 09-07-2009 03:21 PM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
Mitch

Good to hear from you, I understand that you're out of the country for a while. I appreciate the vote of support for me being the biggest BS'r, its taken me 65 years of awfully hard work to attain all that. I was bought up in the car business and have been selling and BSing since I was about 15 years old. Sold my first New Ford Truck (64 F100 Custom Cab with the big 6) when I was 17. I have heard and delivered about as much BS as any body, If there is any award for attaining this lofty position I would accept it gladly. Knowing so much about BS and all that comes with it is a very enlighting life experience.

I do have a Top 10 BS List, and you will never guess what my Top Pick is.

My official number one BS award must go to the Mopar 340/289 HP Combo, nothing else is even close. And like you and others have said I know a lot about BS, and what took place at INDY should establish without question that the Combo needs HP.

No hard feelings Bud, I look forward to seeing you back in the States and at the races.

R J Sledge
#1 BS'r

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitch kight (Post 138961)
First the Duster only has to weigh 3200lbs to run FSA. If someone tells you there 340 motor makes 500hp, you should use there dyno so yours can make 800hp. The 340 is a good combo and it does make more than 1.5 per but it does not make 500 are 480 are 460hp. That is a big fish story. I had one of these and it was pretty fast and it did not make anywhere close to these numbers. I vote that RJ is Number 1 on the bs. He has always been there and will always keep that spot. He is the King!


Jeff Lee 09-07-2009 06:53 PM

Re: Thanks Findell, Mosbek, and Wann for the Hp!
 
A really good stocker is 1.25 to 1.35 x CID. Remember a bored & stroked stocker is usually about 12 CID over advertised.
1.5 is an absolute killer #1 qualifier at most any event...as long as everything else is up to par (or better). Likewise, you can suffer a little on the HP if you have everything else that is super-primo. I'm not sure what language that is but you get the idea.


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