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I know exactly what you mean, one day forward-three days back !

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I believe the engine will pass a NHRA teardown, parts, lift ,size, stroke, cc's. I need to get a few gaskets,spare parts, and I should be fearless, nervous but fearless, for teardown.

Do plumbing, make travel caddy, get fuel, load and go to dyno. Cross your fingers.

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Larry that intake looks sweet, can't wait to see you and Patsy make some passes. do you think you will have it out this year ?
Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK- SS-SST

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We planned to race it in March of this year, but that didn't happen. We hope to have it at BG in Aug. If things go bad we will put the pink car in service.

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Plan on being at Indy ?

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Yes!
I'm loaded up, had to remove intake to load. And I'm off..........

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Today is the day we try to fire it up

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You at Taylor’s shop for the dyno work? If confidential no problem

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A BIG Thank You to Cooter and David for working so hard and smart on getting the "Bugs" worked out so "Dumbo" would start and run. A lot of the bugs were self inflicted by me. Just because a sensor worked in a 6.1 does not mean it will work in a 392 after its installed in the same place. Other problems were parts that checked good but did not work, for what reason who knows. Cooter and Dave worked and trouble shot on the system from 8:00 am until 2:20 pm. that's when the engine came to life. I'm telling you these guys so worked hard you would have thought it was their engine they were trying to start.

All of this happened Friday and I was hoping to get home Saturday. I did! Cooter was also a cheer leader all day, as they solved one problem and went to another he would cheer me up by telling me the truth, they were making progress. I forgot to tell you folks that this was Cooter's first Gen III Hemi. I'm sure if it was a LS-1 things would have been much easier for Cooter. The worst thing for me was the limited things I could reliably do to help. I will be better.

I will write more of the FI Dyno experience. The emotions grafted would have more ups and downs than the sine wave of three phase electrical current.

I have to thank my friends Jeff Teuton, Shaun, and Sid for all the help to get "Dumbo" ready to fly! --- I hope!

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Clean up on Aisle 1

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I'm about recovered from my suicide drill in La., food was great and the OPC beer was perfect. Looking at the dyno sheets the car will require a transmission change, converter change, I think the 5.13 will do for a start. Hp is up but torque varies almost a 100 ft/lbs compared to the stump pulling power of the six pack. Oh Boy a new learning curve, shift points will be way different due to the drastic change in the torque curve. Keep your fingers crossed!

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What's next Larry ?

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Today should have been great, Chris and I were working together. We have not done that in a while. Plan of attack : me work on engine until he arrives then we remove the front bumper cover so we can install engine, converter, and trans. First we decide to check all bolt torque on rear suspension and mark each one that we check. I don't want anything exciting happing on the way down the track.

With the engine being quite tall I had to add links to the lifting chain, spreader bar. When installing the engine the dip stick is in the way, raise it back up and remove dip stick and plug hole. lowering the engine ,we think, is the last time only to see the new alternator bracket not allowing the motor mount to be attached. I worked on the work around for bracket and mount until it was no fun. Then I turned out the lights and quit. When it not fun I will quit

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Its 5:15 AM having coffee I will be in shop by 5:45 AM.

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8:30 and just finished supper. Left the shop at 8:pm. The junk CSR puts out and sells made it a very long day. The stuff did not fit within a half a hole. You can't even put the bolts in and have them be 90* to anything. If its modified CSR will not recertify. If CSR would QC check the shield it would not be necessary to modify. News Flash CSR " Almost rite is still WRONG!"

Time to get cleaned up and ready for bed, so I can do it all again tomorrow, starting bright and early

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It's amazing how a good night sleep changes a persons outlook on a problem that was so large yesterday. Me using poor judgement almost ruined the threads in the aluminum block where the trans mounts. The fix was remove casting flashing from the trans. Smooth the depressions for the bolts in trans bellhousing. Remove steel bushings and give them .015'' more radial clearance. Slot the shield to move bushing to the centerline of the bolt hole. Enlarging the hole in the shield wont work because the bushing will fall out during installation. The shield floats on the bushings. Straighten the damaged threads in the block. Clean threaded holes, examine bolts for burs and damage threads, repair if necessary, antiseaze, and test fit. Install trans and install bolts with fingers at least four turns in, to verify bolts are not cross threaded. What could be more simple than that?

Does anyone make a locking dip stick that bolts up to a 727 with a shield installed, that does not require modification?

Play time is over back to work!

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Wow sure sounds like you have had your hands full with this build. Most anything I buy for my car requires some "fitting". I am sure it will be worth the effort when its all done and on the track racing. Best of luck getting it wrapped up for Bowling Green and Indy.

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I think mine is a Lokar, flexible braided line for the tube. I'll try and send a picture of mine.

Dennis Breeden

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Thanks

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Larry, mine is a Lokar as well.. One thing is make sure the full line is really full.. I burnt two trannys up before realizing full on the dip stick isn't really full.. I took the tranny pan off and marked the dip stick at the base of the tranny.. Took a file to it.. Now fill to that mark.. all has been well since.. Just what happened to me.. Mack

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Great advice provided by Mack, but Larry you are into Dumbo very, very deep. I can't wait to see the fruits of your dedication and labor.

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From Joel at "Joel's on Joy", who credits Jeff Taylor; always check trans fluid with car in gear with some one holding the brake.

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Does anything just bolt up on a race car lol. Thanks for letting us in on the build Larry. Will be cool to see what it does at the track.

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Holy smokes! That is tall! Fits you perfect Larry

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Yesterday was trunk day. Just about done back there. Wiring has been a challenge. 09 lights and 15 lights fit in the same location but the plugs, pin location, and wire color all change.

Bad news I'm still need to order parts. It may be difficult to maintain my goal no extra freight charges on parts shipped in. My time is running out. Back to work

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Bob Toy is doing all of the wiring, and what a job he is doing. Every wire is numbered, soldered, and on a diagram. The trunk is finished with the exception of power to the deck lid's light bar in back. And, and that is a big And, the dash is installed. So now today is window day, windshield and back glass installation. We weighed the car yesterday, not a pretty sight. Big cars want to press on the ground real hard.

More parts arrived yesterday, thanks MPR, Jegs, Summit, Amazon, and FAST.

Back to work

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More pictures of Dumbo!

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Plenty of spaghetti!!

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This is Ronny, one of our sales people that I have annoyed all year! Behind that gray wall on the right is his desk. Oh BTW my race car shop is also the office for the business!!

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More spaghetti!

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Ready for the re-installation of the back glass

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Trunk area

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https://i368.photobucket.com/albums/...t/IMG_2321.jpg
More trunk

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Push off

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Mine does have a serial number!!

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Ready for the windshield today!

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And the business end!!!

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Larry, looks like you guys are doing a great job putting this thing together. I am sure the frustration level has been very high, at times.

When that first full and fast pass occur, all the time spent will be worth it. Good luck. Can't wait to see the results of your labor.

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Larry,
What does all those wires do ???

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If something goes wrong with them, the wires will make me look foolish. The important ones start the car and operate the windows. Thanks again for the help John

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Had to find a few more parts in some bar stock yesterday. I made a couple extra for the trailer. The glass folks were easy to work with, they removed all extra glue and only used enough for installation. The fit from windshield to roof of car was real nice.

I should get a lot of plumbing done today and under hood wiring. I hope we have a good day, for it would be great to take Patsy out to dinner tonight. Patsy in not very mechanical, understatement, but she makes my day better by doing all the other stuff well. She always carries her half of the load, sometimes a little more than half, of our race team.

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Three of us worked on the car yesterday, Chris, Bob, and I. We got a lot done but still have plenty to do. We did go to supper last night and make a Wally World visit. We got just the bare essentials, bread, bananas, beer, and 85W-90 gear oil.

You don't want to be low on beer if Jeff makes a surprise visit.

It's play time!

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Larry that is okay as long as it does not get in the way of her race reports to the rest of us!

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I think I will have to waste some money on extra shipping today. The first time in the build. Chris said the extra shipping is less costly then renting the track.

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Well my record is still intact B&B had some and might be here tomorrow. Car is loaded in trailer and will be at Greer-Neon to have the numbers and graphics applied. Keith, the owner, is a real car guy he likes them old or new. Patsy should post some pictures.

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Should be a fun car ,Larry, I am looking forward to seeing it run !

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It looks awesome now Larry n Patsy , cant wait to see it run .

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B&B parts help the car ride height adjustment until I sat in the car. Then it bottom out. People often ask me what's it like to be that tall or this big todays answer is: Expensive.