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james schaechter 07-01-2022 03:14 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 663758)
Why don’t we set records
It’s a lot of work
My car isn’t fast enough
Nobody cares
There’s no reward
And you are talking about a handful of cars capable of it

I agree with the exception of the last point. The majority of class records are at minimum now.

This is clearly driven by NHRA bean counters, NHRA is not managed by anyone at the executive level thst has a clue about what racers or at least performance class racers desire.

Billy Nees 07-01-2022 03:33 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
http://competitionplus.com/drag-raci...hake-up-coming

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cotten (Post 663761)
Hello Mark
Where did you see this announcement?
I could not find it on NHRA website or fb page.


PONTIAC'S REVENGE 07-04-2022 10:46 AM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 663758)
Why don’t we set records
It’s a lot of work
My car isn’t fast enough
Nobody cares
There’s no reward
And you are talking about a handful of cars capable of it

Hmmmm Maybe we should advocate participation trophys as well! Lol!

PONTIAC'S REVENGE 07-04-2022 10:52 AM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 663645)
NHRA has taken a nonchalant attitude about S/SS just like societies attitude towards proper attire at certain events. Like when people used to dress in suites and ties at events and now people show up in T-shirts and blue jeans. There used to be a day that it was impressive that you set a record. Now it's kind of a oh hum who cares. I'm not saying that the racer that sets a record shouldn't be proud of the accomplishment, but NHRA just sort of kicked it to the curb with not publishing it in ND and not making a special point in the publication.
We pay our membership fees. With my membership to NHRA, I expect them to do their jobs such as managing racing for a fair playing field with keeping to the rule book, tear downs and inspections of vehicles. Also, giving racers that deserve acknowledgment their dues and having it posted in ND and not as an after thought.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

Exactly my brother! Once you loose your self respect; the rest is easy!

James Perrone 07-04-2022 11:28 AM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
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Originally Posted by PONTIAC'S REVENGE (Post 663832)
Hmmmm Maybe we should advocate participation trophys as well! Lol!

You have a lot of ideas and backhanded compliments for someone wasting bandwidth with your ideas and opinions
Go put together a soft Pontiac combo and show me some something
If it’s so easy.
We ain’t here to appease you. We out here racing and burning $$$$
Remember the keyboard is your participation.

PONTIAC'S REVENGE 07-04-2022 03:42 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
The Sport of Class racers was set on a particular pentacle of Ideals. Most of which is toGO FAST! Just like the Spirit of JULY 4th and America We should be internally motivated to Race and be the Fastest! Handicap racing is necessary but SECONDARY NOT PRIMAL! This Sport owes us nothing but a fair playing field! Suggesting there's "no motivation" is extrinsic motivation plagued by "what do you owe me" gambling mentalities. This is what's wrong with Super Stock and Stock in my humble opinion! Why should NHRA feed a bunch of hooligans with their hands out! Ultimately they are giving us exactly what we're asking for...a gamblers race. Lets hold this sport to a higher standard about what we want it to be. Hence this starts from inside US not what NHRA WILL PAY! What I see is happening is the classic denigration of moral fiber to "getting paid" instead of the Glory of being the Best! This is what ultimately whats wrong with this Great sport and our great Country! Wally and George are both rolling in their graves! Stand UP be accountable! Hold TRUTH above Money! Keep the integrity! Most of all... God Bless America and NHRA!

Mike Jones 07-04-2022 06:02 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
Which Stock or Super Stock Records are you currently chasing?
MJ

Billy Nees 07-04-2022 06:24 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
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Originally Posted by PONTIAC'S REVENGE (Post 663846)
What I see is happening is the classic denigration of moral fiber to "getting paid" instead of the Glory of being the Best!

Ya know, any Racer who's playing this game just for the reason of "getting paid" should find a new game.
The days of making money and/or "getting paid" (or at least even breaking even) are long gone.
Welcome to NHRA racing in the 21ST century!

PONTIAC'S REVENGE 07-04-2022 06:31 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 663849)
Which Stock or Super Stock Records are you currently chasing?
MJ

If this is for me... I tried to set GTFA at Belle Rose and missed it by 4 huns. Could've set GTEA bcuz it was at the minimum and my 4.88s were blown. No glory with that on my comeback. Will try again this fall. Bucket list item for me, never had one!

bubski 07-04-2022 07:01 PM

Re: So.. Why aren't RACERS trying to set National records!?
 
Bubski remembers walking thru the staging lanes and every other car it seemed to Bubski had the " N.H.R.A. RECORD HOLDER "proudly painted on the front fender !! some of the cars had several years and or decades of pride spelled out right there !! Those guys got into class racing cause it was about trying and learning how to make a better mouse trap and the cars were also badazz !! Real muscle and not any factory "ringers" like they have now !! Cars you watch in the stands and wanna drive one real bad not jelly beans from Pro Stock !! If you believe Stock ,Super Stock is only bracket racing and still pissing and moaning about the cost or payout !! You would be a fool not to just stay bracket racing and use all the money you'll save on the super massaged parts to buy buy backs and the like and win more if you do win !! Bubski's also got a feeling that some would rather not have NHRA see what they're doing either !! Online tech and your pinky swear that your legal is about what they have now !! Sure hate for them to see my max lightened ,huge cam tunnel and relocated lifter bore block and very liberal "off the guide centerline" enhanced Stocker heads !! If no ones looking who cares ?? When's the last time you just told a cop you were speeding and would appreciate the ticket ? Bubski also believes a lot of these racers as forementioned with decades of Records to their credit are probably getting a little tired of constant teardowns and nothing for it and lets face it they're not kids anymore !! However Bubski knows who many are and has the highest respect for their achievements to this day !!


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