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James Perrone 02-22-2021 07:10 PM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Please don’t bring up the supposed PRO drivers that win a lot
This is about the new technology that is available msd grid race pak
New car etc..
When the new car s came out they were nice cars that weren’t so deadly constant.
Now these car print time slips ...like a computer. 😂

GTS340 02-22-2021 07:47 PM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Very few of "those pro Drivers" Build cars anymore if ever these days. Lost art! Let me see them build a new car 2010 and above. Whip out the pipe bending and the tig welder. Hold the wheel tight!

e vassar 02-23-2021 03:33 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
We can settle this right now. I have a BS3 in my car, I will pay a thousand dollars to anyone who can tune it to "print time slips" with my foot on the floor out the back door. ... cause my driving aint getting it done!...but seriously, I can see the logic for cheating in big money bracket racing To risk it to win stk and a Wally at a divisional or even national event? ...really?

Billy Nees 02-23-2021 08:32 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 635060)
I can see the logic for cheating in big money bracket racing To risk it to win stk and a Wally at a divisional or even national event?
Ego.......................

CJ McDonald 9564 02-23-2021 09:20 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
I have a close friend that purchased a stocker and the previous owner had left a delay box hidden behind a panel. Not calling any names. Just saying that it’s happening.

Billy Nees 02-23-2021 09:57 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 635060)
I can see the logic for cheating in big money bracket racing To risk it to win stk and a Wally at a divisional or even national event?
Ya know, I feel like I have to add to my previous answer to this.
The vast majority of S/SS Racers in this day-and-age don't build their own stuff nor do they have any financial stake in the chassis and engine shops that are building their stuff so you're not doing this to further your own business interests. You can count on one hand the number of S/SS Racers who are actually still trying to make a living by S/SS Racing.
I have a bunch (not a whole bunch)of Wallys in a few different sizes and they finally got stuck in a closet because my "Sweetie" got tired of dusting them and I can't figure out how to cook and eat them.
When you go to an event, the first thing that you see is the number of motor homes and coaches in the pits(that don't come cheap) towing all different sizes and shapes of trailers (some of which don't come cheap) that are carrying anywhere from 1 to 4 or 5 racecars (most of which don't come cheap) all for a winners purse of less than $2,000!
Now if you're doing it for family time together then I think it's great. If you're doing it because you've retired and you want to see the country, go for it! It's a big, beautiful country out there. Unless there's one or two reasons that I've missed then you're doing this to feed your ego.

Eric Merryfield 02-23-2021 10:33 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ McDonald 9564 (Post 635064)
I have a close friend that purchased a stocker and the previous owner had left a delay box hidden behind a panel. Not calling any names. Just saying that it’s happening.
I'm learning new stuff every day. I was under the impression that a delay box worked off a tranbrake, getting it to work consistently off a brake petal or a clutch petal would be an impressive feat. More trouble than its worth, just get better at the tree!

Back to the Addendum, I'm seeing it be a Tech Question, do you have a driveshaft sensor? Yes, you get a star next to your name for time slip analysis, and further inspection if warranted, no big deal.

This will be a 95% EFI thing

How they administer the new "E" Tear down procedure could cause some drama.....

How do we best date code, pull, and prove the tune that is currently on the ECU in the car, is the same as when it went down the track.......Not sure, but that will be on the Racer....When legality is in doubt, your out.

I'm 100% for it, keep people honest, its why they don't allow driveshaft sensors at some of the big $ races.

Eric

e vassar 02-23-2021 11:31 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 635066)
Ya know, I feel like I have to add to my previous answer to this.
The vast majority of S/SS Racers in this day-and-age don't build their own stuff nor do they have any financial stake in the chassis and engine shops that are building their stuff so you're not doing this to further your own business interests. You can count on one hand the number of S/SS Racers who are actually still trying to make a living by S/SS Racing.
I have a bunch (not a whole bunch)of Wallys in a few different sizes and they finally got stuck in a closet because my "Sweetie" got tired of dusting them and I can't figure out how to cook and eat them.
When you go to an event, the first thing that you see is the number of motor homes and coaches in the pits(that don't come cheap) towing all different sizes and shapes of trailers (some of which don't come cheap) that are carrying anywhere from 1 to 4 or 5 racecars (most of which don't come cheap) all for a winners purse of less than $2,000!
Now if you're doing it for family time together then I think it's great. If you're doing it because you've retired and you want to see the country, go for it! It's a big, beautiful country out there. Unless there's one or two reasons that I've missed then you're doing this to feed your ego.
Ego: (noun) An inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others.
Your consciousness of your own identity.

Personally I cant think of too many things that would feed my ego more than holding the Wally at the end of day. Unless I had to somehow cheat to do it. Then it would be meaningless.

Kent Pascoe 02-23-2021 11:51 AM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield (Post 635072)
I'm learning new stuff every day. I was under the impression that a delay box worked off a tranbrake, getting it to work consistently off a brake petal or a clutch petal would be an impressive feat. More trouble than its worth, just get better at the tree!

Back to the Addendum, I'm seeing it be a Tech Question, do you have a driveshaft sensor? Yes, you get a star next to your name for time slip analysis, and further inspection if warranted, no big deal.

This will be a 95% EFI thing

How they administer the new "E" Tear down procedure could cause some drama.....

How do we best date code, pull, and prove the tune that is currently on the ECU in the car, is the same as when it went down the track.......Not sure, but that will be on the Racer....When legality is in doubt, your out.

I'm 100% for it, keep people honest, its why they don't allow driveshaft sensors at some of the big $ races.

Eric
A delay box can also be used to "delay" the low side two step on the hit, for those tracks that have marginal bite .

Dave Gantz 02-23-2021 12:13 PM
Re: New Technical Inspection Addendum
 
"Winners never cheat and cheaters never win."

Well, I guess that's out...


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