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Bob Bender 06-11-2017 11:45 AM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
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Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 536914)
Once again, this is nothing against bracket racing and in reality doesn't even affect me I get enough grade points to go where ever I want because I actually race instead of trolling message boards looking to disagree with everyone. Its just the principal behind it and if you're too stupid to see it then so be it.

Amen !!!!!

Kevin Panzino 06-11-2017 12:05 PM

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This is not about bashing bracket racing.
Bottom line, Pro ET is not a class that is contended at National Events, nor a class which competes for a Wally. Period.

Should they host a lacrosse event at the Orange Bowl and for good measure award the MVP of the winning team a Heisman Trophy?

Bob Bender 06-11-2017 04:12 PM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
Here is my comments, if you have a car and don't race or if you have no car, shut the hell up. !!!

jamie2370 06-11-2017 05:01 PM

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This whole thing is why Stock/SS is not getting the young people to keep the class going. Now before I say this, my family has been in Stock/SS for over 40 years. Biggest problem #1 is that most of the Stock/SS guys think they are "better" than bracket racers. Without bracket racers there would be no NHRA period. They are the ones who spend all their money at Summit, etc which is a major sponsor for NHRA. Also last time I checked Stock/SS is nothing but bracket racing unless its a same class car. Next but not least, Pro ET DOES RACE for wallys at certain races. And they are the exact same as the ones won at a divisional race. Rant over. :)

Bob Pagano 06-11-2017 05:14 PM

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jamie2370
Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
This whole thing is why Stock/SS is not getting the young people

Answer. $$$$$$$

bob gonier 06-11-2017 08:36 PM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
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Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 537042)
jamie2370
Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
This whole thing is why Stock/SS is not getting the young people

Answer. $$$$$$$



Sorry Bob, Money is not the reason. I have a son who want's to race every chance he gets and a car that would make a perfect stocker with a weekends worth of work, It just doesn't make sense to me. I also have a car I can drive anytime, a legal I/SA car. It may not be the fastest I stocker but it's legal and fun and I chose NOT to race it. I also have some friends who know a thing or two about building fast stockers and I'm sure I can be fast for as cheap as possible and yet we still choose to bracket race weekly. Trust me, It's not the money.................


By the way, Congrats to Denny and Ray, in a helluva Pro final !!!!!!!!!!!

joespanova 06-12-2017 08:49 AM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
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Originally Posted by jamie2370 (Post 537039)
This whole thing is why Stock/SS is not getting the young people to keep the class going. Now before I say this, my family has been in Stock/SS for over 40 years. Biggest problem #1 is that most of the Stock/SS guys think they are "better" than bracket racers. Without bracket racers there would be no NHRA period. They are the ones who spend all their money at Summit, etc which is a major sponsor for NHRA. Also last time I checked Stock/SS is nothing but bracket racing unless its a same class car. Next but not least, Pro ET DOES RACE for wallys at certain races. And they are the exact same as the ones won at a divisional race. Rant over. :)

DOES ANYONE even have to ask?
Bracket racing is not where I'd go to see cars restricted by "rules" running fast . Bracket racing is boring. Dragsters are boring. The quality of many cars in bracket racing leave lots to be desired........ etc etc.
Class cars reflect many times the effort.

DmacE167 06-12-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 537096)
DOES ANYONE even have to ask?
Bracket racing is not where I'd go to see cars restricted by "rules" running fast . Bracket racing is boring. Dragsters are boring. The quality of many cars in bracket racing leave lots to be desired........ etc etc.
Class cars reflect many times the effort.

My man, you sure are pathetic. And everyone else with the negative comments . I hope your trophy case is as big as your ego.

Signman 06-12-2017 09:55 AM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
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Originally Posted by bob gonier (Post 537061)
Sorry Bob, Money is not the reason. I have a son who want's to race every chance he gets and a car that would make a perfect stocker with a weekends worth of work, It just doesn't make sense to me. I also have a car I can drive anytime, a legal I/SA car. It may not be the fastest I stocker but it's legal and fun and I chose NOT to race it. I also have some friends who know a thing or two about building fast stockers and I'm sure I can be fast for as cheap as possible and yet we still choose to bracket race weekly. Trust me, It's not the money.................


By the way, Congrats to Denny and Ray, in a helluva Pro final !!!!!!!!!!!

Bob, the cost is a big part of why people don't run Stock. You personally have much of the money already spent on your car but the power train to be competitive with a Pontiac is quite a bit more than a Chevy with some inherent issues that are tough to overcome. Don't think many can build a Stocker cheaper than my Camaro have 60K+ in it and hundreds of hours, looked at reproducing the engine = 20K to go 11s? Plus it must be freshened every 150 runs. Then you have the lightweight transmission the differential........

As to the comment on the quality of bracket cars have heard some of the cars allowed to race at big money foot break races in the south is pretty bad. You personally do not field a car of low quality how about the guy who raced with lawn chair for driver seat? Both sides of the coin.

Back to cost: To attend an LODRS race with entry, expendables, meals, hotel, gas and tolls a 3 day race will eat up 1K or more. What's a bracket race cost 250? Less?

If you race to win money class racing is not what it was years ago, the contingency is not there any longer. Bracket racing is much more lucrative with much lower overhead.

DmacE167 06-12-2017 10:23 AM

Re: Bracket Racing vs Stock/Super Stock Racing
 
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Originally Posted by Signman (Post 537105)
Bob, the cost is a big part of why people don't run Stock. You personally have much of the money already spent on your car but the power train to be competitive with a Pontiac is quite a bit more than a Chevy with some inherent issues that are tough to overcome. Don't think many can build a Stocker cheaper than my Camaro have 60K+ in it and hundreds of hours, looked at reproducing the engine = 20K to go 11s? Plus it must be freshened every 150 runs. Then you have the lightweight transmission the differential........

As to the comment on the quality of bracket cars have heard some of the cars allowed to race at big money foot break races in the south is pretty bad. You personally do not field a car of low quality how about the guy who raced with lawn chair for driver seat? Both sides of the coin.

Back to cost: To attend an LODRS race with entry, expendables, meals, hotel, gas and tolls a 3 day race will eat up 1K or more. What's a bracket race cost 250? Less?

If you race to win money class racing is not what it was years ago, the contingency is not there any longer. Bracket racing is much more lucrative with much lower overhead.

$250? Frank if you wanna compare big events such as a national or divisional costing money. World footbrake challenge is in a few weeks. That's gonna cost $800 just to roll through the front gate. Not counting the 10 hour tow. Gas and hotel. Buy backs. So you can triple your compared 1k investment to come race with us for the weekend.


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