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In the long ago past NHRA put cars non-streetable factory cars, '65 427 Mustangs, AWB's, '68 Hemi cars, etc. into SS. Why are they in Stock now?

OK, the SS guys just went: S**t, don't give us this problem and I don't believe we should.

I vote for putting them in their own eliminator: Factory Stock. H**L, even the IHRA knows that a computer tuned FI car doesn't belong in the same class as a car running a hundred year old designed carb!

Do I think this will happen...no! You will see older cars slowly disappear and the eliminator get smaller and die when the Big Three lose their interest in drag racing.

It's up to the NHRA to make this right but with their track record...I have little hope.

JimR

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 445084)

That's good , Bob .. You're right ..simple and obvious solution to that issue.

Only two more problems, easily fixed :

2, No new classes (besides the one in section three.) No new indexes
NO heads up runs anytime, anywhere,between FX and non FX cars for at least five years.

3, ALL FX cars run class (where stock class is run) as FX Combo. Stick and auto combined..
Now you have a Factory showcase where ever class is run .
At the most ,NHRA is out one more trophy .

Simple enough, Jeff?

Hi Big Boy,

The Shootout cars (FX cars) will only race each other heads up because they are in the same class..

When a normal Stock Eliminator Class racer has a race with an FX type stocker it would always be a handicap start because they are in different classes....

Simple........

Bob

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How about new cam rule for old stocker,.440 lobe sb.&.500 lobe bb and any rr.that will fix it.Lol

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If NHRA cared, they would factor all cars based on their 1/8 mile MPH. It would be funny watching people dive right before the 1/8th then getting back on it. They might pretend to care but I think we're all too smart to buy that.

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[quote=Dwight Southerland;445070]

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 445034)

FYI, according to my database, there are 2944 different engines listed in the classification guide prior to 2008 that have HP factors.

Wow. I never would have guessed that high. I said 400, figuring those 400 (pick whichever ones) would be the most used in the Guide (LT-1, LS-1, old 428, 440/Hemi, 396/375, etc) as opposed to the ones, like many of the cars I raced were the only one of their kind in the country.

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A lot of good ideas have been posted, some better than others, but all impressive if for nothing more than the thought process used to define.

The ones I most agree with, are the ones that keep it simple and use mostly common sense to address the issue at hand.

What is wrong with just placing the New Cars in a Class by themselves??

Probably because NHRA has an agenda that wants to replace the old cars with the new.......? You think?

Why?

Because the Factories don't make new 69 Camaros, 68 Road Runners or 67 Fairlanes, and you can't buy them down at "Wide Track Town Motor Company"!

I am sure that most everybody realizes that, just making my point.

New Cars are the Future with NHRA, and to get the Corporate monies, you have to play the game.

I would like to see something done that is a quick and easy fix, most New Car people won't agree with me, as they have bought in to the same mind set as NHRA. Hey this is a Money Deal.....You know the saying...".Hey it ain't personal Sonny.....its just business"!!

Try to remember the "3 biggest lies" joke and just add the New Car Politicians statements to the list. Funny, I don't think they race old cars anymore....I might be wrong.....

I own both a New Car (2010 Mustang that myself and Kirk Morgan built ourselves from scratch) and an Old Car (67 Fairlane 390 combo slowly going together), so we are not biased one way or the other.

Some of the solutions that were posted seemed a little complicated for me. Kind of like Common Core Math equations!! Can't imagine what NHRA thought.

Something simple is the answer along with common sense.

Only problem is that with the turn outs at INDY for Old Cars and New Cars alike, NHRA may have already made a decision. In other words it may be too late. If all the Old Cars said "We are not going to attend any National Events.....NHRA would probably just say......Oh!..OK...Have a nice day!!

JMO

I still luv everybody, Old Car and New car alike.

RJ

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For what specific reason is a 68 Hemi Dart or Barracuda not acceptable in stock elininator?

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Michaes, just because is the only answer. Complete factory specs are in the book, the bodies are well known, and the motors are already there in the64/65 models in CC or BB or something like that. Barton, John Dourlelt, Chuck Rayburn, Jim Bailey come to mind on those. Now someone would have to police the front frame rails, of course the 9 in tires, and no tubs, they came with a Dana, and lots of stuff are already allowed in Stock; light brakes, roller rockers, light seats (which they had anyway) I think BB.

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From a marketing standpoint, they got to love it. For the average Joe sitting in the stands or reading the mags, that doesn't have a guide or rulebook to refer too....it just looks like that new stuff is just putting a whoopin on all that old iron.

They wouldn't have got as much bang for the buck if those cars were lost down in the ladder or qualifying sheet, because they had the correct HP applied to them.

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I can't wait for....Stock Suggestion #2 to hit the local forum!!