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carl hinkson 06-26-2014 06:21 AM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 436078)
I've been holding off posting on this until I had it fixed, so....
If anyone out there is considering gapless rings, DON'T DO IT!!!
On the advice of Mike Taylor, I got in touch with Gregg Luneack at Tri City Competition to talk about rings. It seems this is a very common issue with the Total Seal Gapless pieces of she-ite. Gregg hooked me up with a set of his Race Rings...he mailed them Saturday, I had them Monday morning. I got the thing back together and fired it up tonight, and whaddya know! No smoke!
I can't believe Total Seal continues to sell this garbage. I have not contacted them yet, but I will tomorrow. $350 down the toilet, not to mention countless hours of work and stress, plus missing a month of racing...I'm pissed.
And Ed, I opened up the hole like you said! Thanks to everyone for the info. We'll find out this weekend how much faster it is than last year.
I have used a lot of T/S rings with out any issues so far, I guess if you know what your doing and put them in right there should be any problems.

What caused the scuffing on the cylinders?

I would be willing to say you had the 2and rings upside down with all that oil in the cylinders.

Paul Merolla 06-26-2014 07:04 AM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
They were in right, Carl. That was the first thing I checked when I took it apart, and I hoped that's what the problem was.
You're right, I just don't know what I'm doing...that's why it runs just fine with the new rings.

Bubbba 06-26-2014 12:39 PM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
I shoulda read the whole post. lol

ss wannabee 06-26-2014 01:29 PM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Did you re-hone the block before installing the Tri-City rings? Either way, let us know
how it runs after you get a few laps on it. Heard nothing but GOOD on Greg's stuff....

Jim Hanig 06-27-2014 10:35 AM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 436090)
They were in right, Carl. That was the first thing I checked when I took it apart, and I hoped that's what the problem was.
You're right, I just don't know what I'm doing...that's why it runs just fine with the new rings.
Paul I would guess it was the way the blk was honed. Glad you got Gregs rings he is very good.

Alan Nyhus 06-27-2014 11:52 AM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Glad you got things squared away, Paul. :) Looking forward to seeing you @ the Midwest Class Racers event July 5-6. -Al

Todd Hoven 06-27-2014 01:05 PM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
There is stuff out there with gapless rings that run just fine. I wouldn't call total seal and tell them there stuff is garbage. When running the low tension stuff, hone and crankcase vapor mangagement is crucial.
The important you found something that works well for you. Happy racing..

Paul Merolla 06-27-2014 01:21 PM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 436249)
Glad you got things squared away, Paul. :) Looking forward to seeing you @ the Midwest Class Racers event July 5-6. -Al
Not going to make that one, Al. I wish I were going, but we have an extravaganza every year with my wife's family. Earlville on the 12th and 13th is on the calendar, though.

Paul Merolla 06-27-2014 01:31 PM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 436256)
There is stuff out there with gapless rings that run just fine. I wouldn't call total seal and tell them there stuff is garbage. When running the low tension stuff, hone and crankcase vapor mangagement is crucial.
The important you found something that works well for you. Happy racing..
You're right, Todd...the two guys who recommended gapless to me have never had a problem, and one of them did the hone on my block. But it seems for every one person who uses them, there are 5 who hate them.
It's interesting you mention vapor management...I run 2 pcvs normally, but didn't hook them up for break-in. I just left the valve covers open and plugged the vacuum port. Maybe it would've helped to have them hooked up, who knows?
It was just a very frustrating ordeal and I'm glad it's over. Now if it would stop raining maybe I could go try it out!

Alan Nyhus 07-19-2014 09:44 AM
Re: Fresh rebuild, oil everywhere
 
Paul, I watched the video from Earville....looks like you've got the car running pretty well!


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