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Patric Fox 09-08-2012 09:22 AM

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If you want to race a AMC, come on in, the water is fine. Start looking for some 43 year old blocks,cranks and cylinder heads. Then assemble your engine and see how easy it is. Or you can buy a new GM or Ford block, crank and cylinder heads, have anyone assemble it, and install a NHRA approved Holley or Edlebrock replacement carburator. And even some engines you can use Edlebrock cylinder heads. If I had time I would search through the NHRA Classification Guide and point out the favoritism shown to GM and Ford racers. But I will just work harder at trying to make my 43 year old junk stay together and go faster than it did last year.

Billy Nees 09-08-2012 09:57 AM

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I'll bet you that there is more Jeep stuff out there then there is B-O-P stuff. Also, you are running SS and I do believe that there are World Products Jeep blocks available and some AMCs are allowed Edelbrock heads.
As it has been said on this thread before,"you chose to build it" so you can't complain but I'll bet that you will jump on that 780 Holley in a heartbeat and not complain. Probably won't complain about the HP reduction that you got a while back either.

Ed Wright 09-08-2012 10:02 AM

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All HP reductions are B.S.

Todd Hoven 09-08-2012 10:49 AM

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I dont think a few replacement parts for some combos is a bad idea. A sweeping change for a manufacturer brand is something else. I cant imagine that no AMC parts are available anywhere, and to give anyone who runs one, all those parts in one shot looks fishy.
I always thought the proceedure was going through channels, and working the system. Not a backdoor deal between friends, in the middle of the night.
I've been working on ( and not at all Successful ) with getting replacement heads approved for certian Pontiac combo's. Bruce Bacholder is a good and for the most part a fair man. When a approached him about another manufacturer as a source for a possible replacement head, he told me he has to bring it up durring an NHRA S/SS panel meeting.
Was this change brought about and accepted by him, or another higher up override back door deal? If Bruce is not the guy who can make the desision without a pannel disscussion, who is? Maybe the guy who got the AMC deal done can help me? Sure beats going through the system.

Todd Hoven 09-08-2012 10:54 AM

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And a bigger camlift spec is easier for buying camshafts today, rather then the current spec that was the standard for years? I guess cam cores are drying up? Maybe its time to build a 304 AMC Sprit with a 304 and all those new parts? Maybe I can build a Wally Booth pro stock tribute car, along with my Firebird? Maybe I can get Wally to do a set of those special heads? :eek:

Paul Wong 09-08-2012 10:56 AM

Re: The damage recently done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patric Fox (Post 345202)
If you want to race a AMC, come on in, the water is fine. Start looking for some 43 year old blocks,cranks and cylinder heads. Then assemble your engine and see how easy it is. Or you can buy a new GM or Ford block, crank and cylinder heads, have anyone assemble it, and install a NHRA approved Holley or Edlebrock replacement carburator. And even some engines you can use Edlebrock cylinder heads. If I had time I would search through the NHRA Classification Guide and point out the favoritism shown to GM and Ford racers. But I will just work harder at trying to make my 43 year old junk stay together and go faster than it did last year.

I have a street driven 11 second AMC. I am sure the big holley helps the stock 390 make that power. The only issue i see is oiling. Other than that what is bad about the design of an Amc engine. As far as old parts i will be running a 1962 plymouth shortly which is built with a lot of antiquated 50 year old parts and im sure it will be fine. Trust me we are enhancing ourselves out of stock eliminator with the constant lifting of rules. NHRA is just waiting to do a major consolidation.

Billy
Sorry about getting carried away with the dime rocket but i had a lot of help. Besides it is not that far from dime rocket numbers in terms of investment. On another note i see a lot of talk but not many dime rockets being put together.

bubski 09-08-2012 11:04 AM

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Stock and Superstock have been bastardized beyond belief,now this is a major problem haha theres gonna be so many new AMC's out there they may start producing them again for the millions of class racers and fans lol.

Billy Nees 09-08-2012 11:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Wong (Post 345224)
Trust me we are enhancing ourselves out of stock eliminator with the constant lifting of rules. NHRA is just waiting to do a major consolidation.

Bingo!

Jeff Lee 09-08-2012 12:11 PM

Re: The damage recently done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 345209)
I'll bet you that there is more Jeep stuff out there then there is B-O-P stuff. Also, you are running SS and I do believe that there are World Products Jeep blocks available and some AMCs are allowed Edelbrock heads.
As it has been said on this thread before,"you chose to build it" so you can't complain but I'll bet that you will jump on that 780 Holley in a heartbeat and not complain. Probably won't complain about the HP reduction that you got a while back either.

What, there's a new block from World Products available? You one-upped me on that one! Let me know when your order comes in.

Jeff Lee 09-08-2012 12:29 PM

Re: The damage recently done
 
'62 Plymouth 383 2 4bbl? Really?


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