Re: Rambler All-American
 

1967

Rambler/AMC made their 'first real move into the street musclecar scene'.

Not to discount the little 290/225 HP 4-Barrel/4-Speed.

Those 1967 Model 440 2-Door Sedans, weighed a nice #2817 lbs.

They were tight cars.
With a weight factor of 12.52 Wt/Hp
1967 NHRA Class = F/S
1968 NHRA Class = J/S
1969 NHRA Class = K/S
1970 NHRA Class = L/S
1971 NHRA Class = L/S
1972 NHRA Class = SS/N or D/S (Pure Stock)
1973 NHRA Class = SS/N or J/S (Pure Stock)

Even back in 1968 or 1969, a well-prepped street Rambler American
with a 290 4-Speed, and 4.44 gears,,,,,,,,,,,

Could get into the 14.80 range.

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Wheels Up...

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Old school,,

Edelbrock #R4B,,,,,,,,,,

also notched for the Holley Three-Barrel Carburetor

http://victorylibrary.com/graphics/R4B.jpg


Also, 1967 Optional 'over-the counter' camshaft specifications
Model # H-302 Hydraulic
Lift; .477 Intake / .477 Exhaust (Duration 302*, 98* Overlap)

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Couple of shots...

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/12...600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/50...600x600Q85.jpg

Re: Rambler All-American
 

The gold/black Rogue belongs to Larry Blatt. He bought that car new, and it's a true X-code car!

The second picture is the Ketchum brothers... that my friends is a 9 second all AMC car... here's another shot of it putting on a show:

http://theamcforum.com/forum/uploads...ks_Wheelie.jpg

Also, the 220-American X-code, that I showed a picture of the trunk (illustrating that there really were 220's with 343's in them)... that car also belongs to the Ketchums, and here's another shot of it:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Purkeys006.jpg

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Rogue X,

Nice photo's,,,,,,

Found '3' different production number totals for the 1967 Rambler 343 cars.

Not that it matters, they're still 'Super Rare Super Americans',,,,,,,


Article '1';
'58' Rogues and '55' Model 440's,,,,,,,,,,,113 Total Production
No 220's and/or Station Wagons

No Car Breakdown

Article '2';
'40' Rogues and '18' Model 440's,,,,,,,,,,,58 Total Production
No 220's and/or Station Wagons
4-Speeds Only

Breakdown;
'10',,,,,,,, Model 440 2-Door Sedans
'8',,,,,,,,,,, Model 440 2-Door Hardtops
'33',,,,,,,,, Rogue Hardops
'7',,,,,,,,,,, Rogue (Convertibles)

Article '3';
Is all over the place,,,,,,,
Listing approximately 250 cars built.
Including Model 220's

Re: Rambler All-American
 

NHRA 1967 Specification/Class Sheet

With the 343/280 HP engine;

Car Weights;
Model 220 (2-Door Sedan),,,,,,,#2898 lbs......(10.35 Wt/Hp) = B/S
Model 440 (2-Door Sedan),,,,,,,#2892 lbs......(10.32 Wt/Hp) = B/S
Model 440 (2-Door Hardtop),,,,#2951 lbs.......(10.54 Wt/Hp) = B/S
Rogue (2-Door Hardtop),,,,,,,,,,,#2971 lbs.......(10.61 Wt/Hp) = C/S

1967 NHRA Class Weight Breaks;
B/S = 9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp
C/S = 10.60 - 11.29 Wt/Hp

AHRA 1967 Specification/Class Sheet

With the 343/280 HP Engine

Formula-6 Stock D/S

Which was 4-Barrel Engines, with a Cubic Engine range (340 to 359)
Hydraulic Camshafts Only.

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Paul,

You have stumbled into the "black hole" of AMC documentation.

I am not aware of anyone that has found ANY verifiable documentation regarding the production numbers from the "east" assembly-line (where the Americans were produced) for 1967. The "58" number is generally accepted by the AMC community as accurate, based on the short period of time the X-code cars were produced (January through aproximatelly May of '67).

The list that you found that shows no 220's and 7 convertibles, coincides with a list that has been debunked by the AMC community, for two reasons. First, we currently know of several (verifiable) 220 X-code cars that still exist today, and secondly, because we are fairly confident who those numbers came from.

Several years ago, a person who was very influential in the AMC-community, was basically black-balled for "borrowing" original copies of AMC (corporate) materials, fraudulantly altering that documentation, and presenting it as "new", previously undisclosed information... those exact numbers were ones that this individual claimed as being true.

Re: Rambler All-American
 

Rogue-X,

Whether the information is correct or not,,,,,,throws a curve into the picture.

More of Myths, Mysteries and Misconceptions,,,,,,,

Sources;
'Standard Catalog of American Musclecars'
by John Gunnell

Krause Publications
Rambler Americans, Third Generation

American Motors Corporation
Regional Zone Office
Elmsford, New York

Re: Rambler All-American
 

67RogueX-code, I'm just curious how many 220's does the AMC community believe that were made exactly or is it kinda like the story goes on some of the 426 Hemi cars Chrysler say they never built, but everyone knows that a few snuck out of the factory.