Originally Posted by bubski (Post 298679)

heads up runs are what class racing is all about. however with the almost non existent enforcing of the rules, the bogus new [crate motor] combos,and the under factored old school combos , what are you really proving by beating someone with one of the previously mentioned combos? the only way to make it fair is to hit the combos like they do in comp, so theres no runaway combos like there is now [i know comp has a few soft classes, but not like stock and superstock] then maybe out running your opponent may mean something. beating a F car last spring by a mile means nothing when your a C car in the fall at the same weight as you were in F. the ahfs takes to long to remedy this problem maybe 660 times and the like would help speed up the process of factoring.

Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo (Post 298696)

In the past 5 years I have had 5 heads up runs not including class and are 4 up and 1 down. Interesting that one of the heads that I won I would up winning the race and the other I lost a heads up in the final by .003 Bogus schmogus I love the anticpation of heads up during eliminations. Bring your A game or stay home. Ya win some, ya lose some.

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 298681)

Good post.

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND (Post 298642)

Jeff'
I don't know whether you are a dumb ***** or a smart ***** but that was not the intention of the post. In fact thats one thing I enjoyed about class racing. I enjoyed trying to make my car go faster so I could win heads up runs when I had them.
I wanted to learn something here was the point of the question.
Observations
1) NHRA has a lot more heads up than IHRA
2) Div 1 and div 3 have a lot more than any other according to the racers.
3) There have been a few times when a racer has had multiple heads up in the same race.
4) I doubt 442 has had 50 in 10 years unless you are counting class Your post about Tueton winning Indy is dead on though. I remember going to Norwalk one year Beard had me covered 3 tenths or so. I remembered every rd I won I knew I could'nt when as long as he was still in. I get beat at5 and he made the finals.
5) I would think that most of you have only had a small percentage in actual racing conditions.
6) It really does'nt matter if so and so would have won that round you would have gotten another.

I don't really know where I'm going with this. I mean the possibility is always there so be ready. I do think that is the biggest difference between bracket racing and class racing.
Just remember everytime you put a dial-in on your window you are doing the same thing that JOE BRACKET RACER is doing at the home track on Saturday night.
Chip

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 298685)

Jeff,
This is straying somewhat from thread, but your car is still at that point after 4 years?
I'm very patient but my patience would have ran out about 3 years ago because it sounds like it has'nt been touched.
I think making your car back to stocker sounds like good ideal.
Mike Taylor 3601