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W J 06-25-2010 09:19 AM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Jimmy, those lead -sled SRT-8's will match up just fine with the heavyweight 5th gen Camaros....both need the lypo-suction reduction process....:D WJ

X-TECH MAN 06-25-2010 09:25 AM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 194292)
Drooze,

If the SRT8 is rated anywhere near the factory number, it will not be competitive. It would probably fit B-C (just guessing) If you divide Shipping weight/ Hp Rating that gives you the class it would fall in. So if you take the factory shipping weight divided by the factory rated HP, that would tell you which class it would fall in. Unless, Dodge would "fudge" the numbers a lot!

Naaaaaaaaaaa....neither Dodge or Ford would fudge the HP numbers now would they........LOL

countrypuppy4865 06-25-2010 09:45 AM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Wj,
You are right they probably would match up well you would probably spend 60-70k+ easy to
Build an ss camaro that would probably run with a lot of combinations but why spend that to be with the rest of the pack when you can be on top?

Mickey Whaley 06-25-2010 02:24 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 194310)
wj,
you are right they probably would match up well you would probably spend 60-70k+ easy to
build an ss camaro that would probably run with a lot of combinations but why spend that to be with the rest of the pack when you can be on top?

dwa dwa dwa dwa dwa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris "drooze" Wertman 06-25-2010 02:49 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 194292)
Drooze,

If the SRT8 is rated anywhere near the factory number, it will not be competitive. It would probably fit B-C (just guessing) If you divide Shipping weight/ Hp Rating that gives you the class it would fall in. So if you take the factory shipping weight divided by the factory rated HP, that would tell you which class it would fall in. Unless, Dodge would "fudge" the numbers a lot!

4140/425 (SAE Rated HP) = 9.74 and some change so its a natural D,

The D Index is 11.55 and the car can easily run that with a cam , headers and ditching the IRS and going to a proper gearset the care is capable of running probably a 10.50 , So if a car is capable of going 1 under, thats not competitive ?....

Lets say Im PUSHING it, and I dont think I am and the best the car is capable of is .5 under...and only could ever run 11, which is pretty off......Ive got buddies who with a max overbore (equiv) cam headers and nothing else in a heavier car is (or was hoping to break) into the 9.s late last year I havent talked to him this year or seen him at our local track. This is his daily driver, the ONLY track change is dropping from 21's to 18's for ratio and traction (at the time he set up for 18's there were no 21 drag radials)

What in your opinion, and Im being serious, because this is a difference in perfectpions.....so dont take this as me puffing up.

What is your idea a competitive combo ? Har far under does it need to be able to run under ?

Maybe 1 sec isnt enough, and its my perception VS yours, I am curious as to a real question, its one Ive never asked.

But in my book ESPECIALLY just by dumping the IRS, Gears etc, it could still be a 100k daily driver....

Bob Pagano 06-25-2010 02:55 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
2 things Chris, It aint gona move very fast out the gate at that weight, your competitor will be long gone and at 4100lbs its gona be a parts breaker.

Chris "drooze" Wertman 06-25-2010 03:17 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 194393)
2 things Chris, It aint gona move very fast out the gate at that weight, your competitor will be long gone and at 4100lbs its gona be a parts breaker.

Now Ive heard some FUNNY things today Bob, and maybe Im just punchy....Parts breaker.....I almost swallowed my teeth.

What does it matter what it gets out of the gate at ? 1 sec under is 1 sec under , right ? If I can run em down long track, wouldnt, or couldnt that possibly be an advatage in its own way ?

Parts breakage....heheheh.......

I had a Nitro Motorcycle engine on a what basically could be called sandrail, every 2 runs it needed a new head, I changed probably 25 heads a year, had them off and inspected them etc. I ran that contraption for some 10 years betwen myself and brother in law. The Motorcycle yard would call me up when they had a truckload of that particular head. Breaking things has never been a personal issue for me....But you outta hear a Honda CB175 Engine on Nitro , That was cool and fun, and Nitro was cheap then, unlike some of the horror stories I hear now.

Parts Breakage :D

countrypuppy4865 06-25-2010 03:39 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
Ok let me correct myself. It would be competitive against regular combinations but the drag paks are running 10.50s in F at Bristol with pretty weak 60fts. I am not very familiar with the srt8 but how much would it take to build one in stocker form? The real question is will it be a great deal cheaper than a drag pak 5.7 or 5.9. If it can be done for 40-50k then it may be worth it. That's just my opinion. Also it would weigh 4205 in D!

Adger Smith 06-25-2010 07:18 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
HA! HA! at Drooze. Sonny boy you just let your mouth overload your ***...
You need to start listening to a few of the more experienced class racers instead of spouting off. You have got a lot to learn. It might help your learning curve if you would pay attention to suggestions people try to give you. You always seem to have a car to motorcycle comparison. Get over it! A motorcycle is only a 2 wheeled vehicle. That is half as many as a car and half as many problems as a car. If weight didn't matter WHY are all the factory M/C teams finding ways to engineer their MC's down to fly weight...?? Your MC to car comparison is apples to oranges. It doesn't fly. You have a forum here where people are more than willing to help you and you have the nerve to disreguard them, even to the point of showing disrespect to them. I can't believe our generation raise so many smart a**e* like you. At one time I wanted to meet you and your Dad... Take a hike Sonny.. I would still like to meet your Dad. He shows respect to people in his posts.

G Schenck 06-25-2010 08:55 PM

Re: It's Official...HP on Monday (actually Tuesday)
 
It would have to have over 700 HP to run 10.50. Is that possible with that engine.

Greg


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