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Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!

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Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 127569)

NHRA should just lower the HP Factor for the "ram air" in bodies without a SCOOP.....problem solved.\
And a LOT less hassle on legality of the proper scoop..........geesh

Yes true John, but how much do you figure? Then.......how much for the shorter intake that kills power? Some cars have less than others. I know I put RA on my wifes 99 TA and it was like night and day.

If you add the allowable hood stock hood scoop all the variables and dynamics go away. Our Max wedge is suffering at least 20HP on the intake and probably another number for the Ram Air. The 455SD's I havent a clue. The 440 Magnums, who knows?

The thing that really pisses us off is that there are many cars out there without RA engines running their hoods open. That aint right either. Common Sense could fix that too.

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!

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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 127584)

I would like to see a format like that.But would NHRA go for it?I think you would hear"Sounds good,but it would take too long due to the time lost with the handicap starts".Would there be payouts for the class winners or just the satisfaction of winning class?How about the dreaded AHFS?

There is no AHFS in points races or open races unless you go 1.4 under. If your car will go 1.4 under we dont feel sorry for you anyways, we are happy for you. No handicap starts. Run all the same indexes heads up. If you want to run someone index to index, do it and we figure out who won with the 5 cent CPU.

NHRA can help if they wish otherwise we do it on our own. If we cant organize our own match race, shame on us. If we dont finish and run out of practice runs, we go by who was still in and went the fastest. I guarantee there will be prizes for such a thing and NHRA might even get a few guys coming to watch the S/SS shoot out and buy some dogs and chips. Let me tell you the NMCA guys know how to put on a show.

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!

Would you have to put the scoop on a stock hood? Or could you use the very expensive carbon fiber hoods floating around in SuperStock on GT cars?

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!

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Originally Posted by Dave Tincher (Post 127636)

Would you have to put the scoop on a stock hood? Or could you use the very expensive carbon fiber hoods floating around in SuperStock on GT cars?

My hood is steel OEM TA hood. I would suggest just incorporating the correct shaker or hood scoop that the RAM AIR engine came from original OEM in the car. Factory hypo cars run the ram air HP rating as we all know it was done for two reasons. First one being ram air, but the most important reason hood clearance so we can get a good intake on there to properly represent the HP rating. We lose both of these by going to the GT cars.

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 127484)

You're reading it wrong. Lynn is proposing class eliminations instead of time trials. Much like the SportsNational Open at Bowling Green. Instead of 2,3,4 or more time trials, you get one time trial, then they run class. It's an excellent idea really. Class gets contested, the spectators get to see some heads up no break out racing, and everyone still gets to run final eliminations.

Alan,

Beside funnin' him on this GT hood scoop deal, I've spoken with Lynn about this many times, NOTHING is more boring than Stk/SS time runs. It takes the same amount of time to run the cars off their correct index as it does now. I like the idea of class runoffs during time runs (gee, kinda like the Pro shoot outs, but excitiment EVERY WEEK at every meet!) But at the least run time runs off the index, and maybe eliminate the 1000' clocks? At Joliet Bob announced the 1000' qualifiing club. Either that or go to a random number generator for positions to eliminate sandbagging... Because lifting at 1000' is nearly as boring as the situation we have now. Are we really that bad we need 4 or 5 runs at each meet to practice?

As to increased participation, the expense of running even a Stock Eliminator car what with fake camshafts, and paperweight transmission rotating assemblies, aluminum brakes and superlite wheels have just about killed the local kid moving into NHRA racing unless his/her dad is loaded and racing. Just look at the Pro's.