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John Kelley 04-08-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 113766)
no, a bogus track is one where they subtract .4 from your ET and give you the record for it, even if the actual DA is sea level at the time

AND WHAT DIVISION DIRECTORS ALLOW THAT ???
Could you name some tracks and Division Directors that allow Tech to do that ??

Chad Rhodes 04-08-2009 12:18 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 113786)
AND WHAT DIVISION DIRECTORS ALLOW THAT ???
Could you name some tracks and Division Directors that allow Tech to do that ??

ok the .4 was an exxageration. but you can set a record at an altitude factored track without putting the number on the board. and they are exempt from getting hit with HP. It is BS

Smitty 04-08-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
This post is Bogus!!! Once again these cars have not done anything wrong but show potential. Robert Pond and Bobby DeArmond have been running nines for the last couple years and they haven't generated this kind of attention. Geez, this is ridicoulous!

bill dedman 04-08-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Have either of them (DeArmond or Pond) ever run anything approaching 140 mph?

MPH is the telling number in drag racing. It is a lot more reliable as a horsepower-to-weight indicator than e.t. slips because bite will vary from track to track, and when the hook changes, so does the e.t., but the mph is a lot more constant, regardless of e.t. variations.

These cars have had very little development (track) time and are already running numbers that no one else can approach, with years of development. THAT is the problem; all provided by the 425hp factor that NHRA has bestowed upon them (and the 700+ horsepower they seem to be able to produce, at will.)

Given these circumstances. don't you think this situation is worthy of some discussion?

I do...

Bob Pagano 04-08-2009 02:27 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Hay Bill, What I really want to know is what was NHRA smoking the day they put that factor on the CJ's........I WANT SOME !

ALMACK 04-08-2009 02:34 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy (Post 113511)
boy are they gonna pass me like im tied to a hitching post... hehehe

cant wait to dump my first one... boy i bet i can put him 2 cars out from mph cones to finish line :)

captain jack

Good one Jack... I LMAO when I read that !!

Where we bracket race 85% of the time I spend "dumping" the other driver at the stripe, so I hear where you are coming from. :)

Bruce Noland 04-08-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Jack,
CJ at Atco to the 1/8 = 6.16 et @ 111.86 mph. CJ at Dallas to the 1/8 = 6.210 et @ 110.01 mph and 1/4 = 9.794 @ 140.17 mph. Looks like the CJ at Atco could have gone close to 142 mph.

Smitty,
It may look like Ford and Mopar have pulled this stunt off but heads have begun to roll over this mess. Things can still change. How will it hurt you, if these cars are moved to another class?

bill dedman 04-08-2009 02:44 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Bob Pagano asked: "... what was NHRA smoking the day they put that factor on the CJ's........I WANT SOME !"

The same thing they were smoking when they decreed that somebody driving a Stock Eliminator car needs to wear S.F.I. pants.... and that seat belts need replacing ever TWO years, when even NASCAR allows them to be used for FIVE....

art leong 04-08-2009 02:59 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
Why is everyone so hung up on MPH. It's an elapsed time race not a high mph race.
Let's see what happens when they line up against another car in class. If they run too fast they will get hit.
I've built cars for the last 30 years and have always been short in mph. But (present car not counted) I've usually had the quickest car. Like my old partner Tex used to say "they blew by me at the last mph light (back when it was past the finish)

Jack Matyas 04-08-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Blown, injected, 4-valve CJ's at Ennis...
 
How true Artie , how very , very true.......but at some point they'll learn to harness that MPH and turn it into ET ................


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