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Yes I know,,,,,that list is 'fragmented'. I had a 1967 Barracuda 273/235 HP 'Commando' convertible, with an automatic. It had the 'front' Torque Boxes, but not on the rear......... Back in 1967, I think it was Belanger Headers who could custom make a set of Headers for the 383 A-Body, but they were very expensive. |
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We started working on the Charlie Allen dart again today and found something very interesting. As we were cutting out the after market wheel tubs we found a bolt that ran through the frame rail that we knew did not belong. We did not know what it was for and looked at our copy of american rodding from 1969 which has an article on this car. It turns out Charlie relocated the shocked to the front of the rear and mounted them vertical to reduce wheel hop. I feel it just helps to prove that this is really his dart because who does that kind of stuff.
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great to see your still on that project Kyle. You've got a very special car there. glad to see someone is returning one of these back to it's formal glory. Were you ever able to get in touch with Charlie Allen? Are you restoring it as Charlie's? Including paint?
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* Mickey Thompson Wheels
* Super Scavenger Headers {by Mickey Thompson} * Crower Cams http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1364178148 |
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We were never able to get in touch with Charlie Allen. We are restoring it as he raced it including the paint. We want to be able to race the car so we will be making updates, keeping it more of a stock eliminator car now-a-days instead of super stock. I would love to be able to get in touch with him though. |
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Super Scavenger Headers ~ {by Mickey Thompson} http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps346cac0c.jpg |
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Is your car coded as a H engine or special ordered M code? What does it have for torque boxes under it? Front & rear or just rear.? I noticed in one of your pics that the PS inner shock tower has been modified. pretty good tell tell sign there was a Hemi in it at one time. What engine mounts are on the K member? wedge, Hemi or are they cut off for a engine plate? liteweight |
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I forgot to mention that we could see where console brackets were cut off the floor at one time
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awesome project doing that dart kyle--charlie used to run firebird in chandler but i believe lost the lease and i can find out more info about talking to him if you would like. i used to have a set of m/t super scavenger headers on a 440 i put in a 63 polara convertible as my first registered car.drove it in high school and sold it a classmate(hoodlum) and he drove it to colorado! . im sure its gone back to the earth by now ,but the coolest headers! I also have a friend in ma that has a 68 340 gts 4-spd with 6200 miles on it--it is day one if you look at it.unbelivable car!
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Saddleback Dodge 1401 N. Tustin Avenue Santa Ana, California Owner; Gene O'Hara They were the 'West Coast' version of Grand Spaulding Dodge {Mr. Norm's} They were also involved in a few 'dealer only' 440 Conversions for the 1968 Dart GTS 383. They were also big into the 1969 M-Code 440 Darts. 1968/1969 California > Los Angeles and Orange County Dealer List http://img2.newspapers.com/img/thumb....jpg?cs=604800 |
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Mickey Thompson Wheels In 1968, they were available in both Chrome, and then they came out with 'The Duke' {see below}. Mickey Thompson wheels had 'peaked' spokes. http://www.kustomwheel.com/images/310_MT_Duke.JPG |
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Funny, my Hemi Dart has only the rear torque boxes. Me's thinkin' you should post pictures of the progress of your car yes? liteweight |
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MK II Eliminator Mag Wheel {Aluminum/Steel} Back in 1968 was available in Satin Black or Natural Shot-Peened. In late-1968, the Chrome-finish was available. http://classracer.com/classforum/dat...8/7NFFMD//2Q== |
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I bought several cars from Rex Sagle HP manager at Saddleback Dodge
including a 1969 Charger 500 right out of the showroom floor ($5029.00) He also taught high performance Driving at the CHP. I remember seeing 20 440 dart GTSs in their the back yard. Many Noted Stock and Superstock Racer worked there at the time! Rex gave me a ride through the mountains behind to store in his 70 Dodge Challenger R/T SE demo that I vividly remember to this day |
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1968 NHRA Super Stock
1962 and earlier model cars were 'out' ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1968 SS/EA Class = {8.70 to 9.49 Wt/Hp} Dodge Cars for SS/EA Class in 1968_____________________ * 1968 Dart GTS 383 ~ {with 440/375 HP Conversion} #3305 lbs. ~ 375 HP = 8.81 Wt/Hp Production Numbers 6 ..... Factory converted 48 ... Dart GSS 440 Grand-Spaulding Dodge {Mr. Norm's} 70 ... Dealer converted {approximate} ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * 1964 Dodge 'Model 330' 2-Door Sedan ~ 426/365 HP #3446 lbs. ~ 365 HP = 9.44 Wt/Hp Production Numbers 106 ... Dealer sold ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * 1963 Dodge 'Model 330' Station Wagon ~ 426/415 HP 'Ramcharger 426' #3640 lbs. ~ 415 HP = 8.77 Wt/Hp Production Numbers 3 .... Factory built ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * 1964 Dodge 'Model 440' Station Wagon ~ 426/425 HP 'Max-Wedge' #3739 lbs. ~ 425 HP = 8.79 Wt/Hp Production Numbers 7 ... Factory built |
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Is Saddleback Dodge still around today?
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1401 N. Tustin Avenue Santa Ana, California http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...1&d=1334165625 Now, a Corporate Park 'Office Building' http://s.lnimg.com/photo/poster_768/...9ad7b34494.jpg |
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Thanks for all the history preceding the factory M Code A Bodies in 1969. I don't remember what the 68 cars came with for a "delivered" exhaust manifold, but on 69s the drivers side was a unique casting 3462017. It was about an inch longer to accommodate the taller deck of the 440. I have one of the 299 Cuda fastback M Code cars and like to find one of those original manifolds!
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The 1968 Dart GTS 383 {w/440 conversion} They were equipped with a 'standard' GTS full dual-exhaust system with chrome-tip extensions. In 1968, the NHRA required the Super/Stock cars to carry the full exhaust system, or factory equivalent. Most of the Racers of this car, went with a set of 'Hooker Headers' fenderwell units with 'Y' angle connectors off the collector-tube for the exhaust pipes. See below http://images32.fotki.com/v1045/phot...trailer-vi.jpg |
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So the 68 440 Darts were engine coded with a "M" ?
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In 69 the factory produced 440 cars on the production line with a M in the vin. Similar to the 68 Hemi cars and 69 440+6 cars. Factory made 640 Darts, 299 Cuda fastback, and 60 Notch back cars. "Approx" # |
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It would be great if Bob Lambeck chimed in on these discussions. What size rear tire did this Landy Dart run? |
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Dick was running Good-Year 8.90 x 15" Slicks. The rear Cragars were 15" x 6" with a 4" Bolt pattern The fronts were 14" Cragars, as they were required because of the Fenderwell Headers. |
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I wonder if I could still find a set of the M/T wheels today?
That picture of Saddleback dodge is really cool Paul! Here are some pictures of my progress. It still has a long ways to go but we are getting there. Currently we are working on putting the quarters back to factory and factory wheel wells back in since the car was tubbed. |
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seen on moparts someone purchace this 69 factory 440 dart,if anyone knows who raced it in the past
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At the start of 1968
National Records 0.00 to 5.99 Wt/HP SS/A ............ N/A SS/AA ......... N/A 6.00 to 6.99 Wt/HP SS/B ...... 11.05 SS/BA .... 11.15 7.00 to 7.69 Wt/HP SS/C ......11.16 ~ 126.01 SS/CA ....11.55 ~ 123.11 7.70 to 8.69 Wt/HP SS/D ..... 11.55 ~ 124.07 SS/DA ... 11.60 ~ 120.96 8.70 to 9.49 Wt/HP SS/E ..... 11.88 SS/EA ....12.13 ~ 118.11 9.50 and up Wt/HP SS/F ..... 11.95 SS/FA ... 12.33 Unfortunately, the 1968 Dart GTS 383 {w/440 conversion} could not compete in Stock Class. B/SA ..............12.43 ....... {8.50 to 8.99 Wt/HP} |
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1968 NHRA Winternationals
The 1968 Dart GTS took the SS/EA Class. Both Dick Landy and Butch Leal shared driving duties. The Dart took down several 'factory-prepped' 1968 Ford Mustang 428 Cobra Jets and Camaro SS396 cars. http://www.draglist.com/artman2/uploads/1/ssbook.jpg |
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The 15" Cragar S/S Wheels with the 4" Bolt-Pattern for the A-Body Mopars were not part of the Cragar Catalog. Special Order only back then. |
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September 1, 1968 SS/B ........... 10.83 ~ 1968 Barracuda BO29 - 426 Race Hemi SS/C ........... 11.16 ~ 1968 Camaro SS-396 - 396/375 HP SS/D ........... 11.31 ~ 1967 GTX - 426 Street Hemi SS/E............ 11.64 ~ 1968 Mustang 'Cobra Jet' - 428/335 HP SS/F ........... 11.93 ~ 1968 Camaro Z-28 - 302/290 HP SS/BA ........ 10.94 ~ 1968 Dart LO23 - 426 Race Hemi SS/CA......... 11.25 ~ 1964 Dodge #440 'Steel Nose' - 426 Race Hemi SS/DA ........ 11.51 ~ 1963 Belvedere 'Aluminum Nose' - 426/415 HP SS/EA......... 11.92 ~ 1968 Camaro SS-396 - 396/350 HP SS/FA ........ 12.17 ~ 1968 Ford Fairlane 'Cobra Jet' - 428/335 HP |
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What up with the GTS 440 Darts tho?? liteweight |
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