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John Winslow Jr 07-23-2025 10:32 PM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Not likely I will ever go to Indy, but the fact this is going to turn into the slam
On the brakes Nationals sucks, I love to see everyone get after it. We have a combo that will never go 1 under and got our *** handed to us in two heads up races at Woodburn, that is our issue picking the combo we have. And let me tell you we work hard, Steve Wann is killing himself to help us work on the combo, but it is what it is. No hard feelings to the guys who are faster. I have one class win in 19yrs and he went red but that?s what I have. One time a year the guys should get to show off, just my two cents, John

Lyn Smith 07-23-2025 10:44 PM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
There has to be a reason NHRA changed Indy to a AHFS race. Is it too much negative feedback from the non qualifying cars ? Will it cause the real quick group of cars to get HP? Maybe a few. Smart racers know how to keep the average down.

Mark Yacavone 07-23-2025 11:06 PM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lyn smith (Post 714697)
there has to be a reason nhra changed indy to a ahfs race. Is it too much negative feedback from the non qualifying cars ? Will it cause the real quick group of cars to get hp? Maybe a few. Smart racers know how to keep the average down.

1 800 cry nhra

Whalen3186 07-23-2025 11:23 PM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 714672)
So what National Open will we go to and have unofficial class. I always want to know who is faster.

Larry didn?t you qualify #1 at the 40th, 50th and 60th runnings of the US Nationals? There was the potential for some form of penalty for going extremely far under the index at all of those events and you still survived and thrived. Actually many people say racing was way better in those days! Why the change of heart now?

Steve Kelly 07-24-2025 06:36 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cglrcng (Post 714658)
That was not a surprise to me, they were waiting a good while to post it before giving the bad news for some reason. Why the inconsistencies from year to year though. People make race schedules up at the beginning of a season, not near the middle and end of the season unless deep in the heat of a points battle.

Watching the entry list change from hour to hour, day to day now will be fun. That is a long expensive tow Julie to have to pull back on the reins every pass while there including the 1's for the little man.

That sucks for those who spent so much, in the hopes to run it out hard on the big end, to get so little at this late date. My condolences to the many from the few.

Our family just committed to 2026 for our daughter Ashley Thompson to be there. Yes, 2026. And this was a family meeting yesterday not realizing NHRA had posted this change.

We need to plan that far ahead due to time off for multiple professions (Nurse, Teacher, Engineer), commitment the financial means, and commit to car improvements between now and then.

She can?t afford for her combination to be hit with hp. That would be more costly than the benefit of attending. And not knowing if this same rule will apply in 2026 nor when they will determine this makes it difficult to plan.

We were so excited last night. That excitement has now waned. 😔

Mike Pearson 07-24-2025 08:32 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Personally I dont see this changing much. There are plenty of racers running .90 to 1.00 under at the regular national and divisional events. There is a very select few that can run faster than the instant trigger. They have to make a choice whether or not to make a fast run or not. Just depends how much they want the Indy class wally. I would be in favor of having the AHFS off for Indy. Makes it a little more special/ Interesting. Good luck to all that plan to go.

Larry Hill 07-24-2025 09:29 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Drew, Jim Marshal used the truck to qualify #1 at the 70th US Nationals.

At the 60th I ran V/S a 22 lbs class and went 2.3x seconds under and received 29 hp. that is 638 lbs of added weight. But and it is a big but I achieved my goal making a run outside the box. And I got to repeat a favorite southern phrase: "Hey y'all watch THIS!

None of that would have been possible without the help of the stock stick racers at Indy that year. I am forever grateful, Thanks again.

Went through teardown and raced.

Vic Cagnazzi 07-24-2025 09:30 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.

Jack McCarthy 07-24-2025 09:45 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
soooo what idiot derives a system that penalizes forever ONE run ??

when Farmer was in charge hed casually tell you "you been runnning real good last 3-4 races we gonna move you up a class > personal information, fair assesment and it was ok .... no one liked it but it was fair

now spend $100g (thanks to nhra) and one class final run and shazaam your combo is no longer killer

AHFS > automatic help for slugs cannot will not EVER work we control the input data

captain out >
.... ill be drinking beer and tanning at the downing plantation at indy

Robin Lawrence 07-24-2025 11:28 AM

Re: AHFS at Indy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic Cagnazzi (Post 714718)
Well, didn?t see this coming, very disappointing. Wish we would have known this a few months ago, it would have freed up a lot of weekends we devoted to working in the shop, testing and dyno time.

Coming from a ProStock background, no AHFS at Indy made sense to me, Its our most prestigious race of the year. Bust your butt, work hard, bring the best that you have, hit the tree and let it eat, may the best man win.

I hope they look at again and reconsider.

I am with you. I always looked at Indy as special. I enjoyed watching everyone showing their combinations without the worry of a hit on their index.

With the number of cars, Class Eliminations was cool. Cars that never showed their hand let it all out at Indy.

I was going to post one of those "I need a spot at Indy" threads but now I am not that excited about going. I'll be there but probably not racing.

Robin


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