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Frank Castros 10-15-2022 01:12 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
He's been racing that car for a few years, I presume he knows the rules and specs for that combination.

Carguy49 10-15-2022 01:54 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
First off, the car looks beautiful. I see that Joe is having trouble running the index. Didn't hit it in SS/JA and is barely under in SS/KA today.

It is, obviously a small tire car. Was it built to Stock specs or S/S specs?? There is a difference and has the car been under index in S/S before, or run as a stocker ever. Just curious.

Thanks Jared for the info that you added.

4284spd 10-15-2022 02:01 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
I sure wish Warren was still doing Division races! NHRA TV SUCK's!

GTX JOHN 10-15-2022 03:08 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
MY mistake = The 301 is legal at this time.
The 666 which possibly is a better intake maybe
is the one currently illegal on the 64 383.
I assume that was the problem.

The manifold rules have moved around a bit on this combo
and I am not current on it.

Todd Hoven 10-15-2022 03:08 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
Is this the new standard for tech? An infraction in Tech or a 1.20 under run, and you get a mulligan? Will this be applied evenly or on a case by case basis? So if I commit a 1.20 under infraction in qualifying so I get to change class or just ask to the tech department to DQ me for the race? So I keep my HP down? Now that there is no 1.20 instant after this year this is a moot point.
Is there any penalties anymore for rule infraction anymore? This is becoming a disturbing trend.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared Jordan (Post 669173)
I don’t know which number casting was on it but my understanding is that it was a later-model, stock 383 casting that wasn’t correct for the 64 383.

They’ve run the same car in SS/JA previously with an Edelbrock single plane intake.

I truly believe this was an honest mistake and the driver, when he was told by another racer that he had the incorrect casting on the engine, self-reported himself to NHRA and was permitted to reclassify into SS.

Gregg Luneack 10-15-2022 03:41 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
I believe that this was an honest mistake, Joe is
not a full time racer. All of you that are complaining
give him a break, as soon as he was told it was wrong
he reported to NHRA. He was not trying to cheat, he
did not know that manifold was no longer legal.
Why is nobody bitching about the 305 engine that was
never offered in a Camaro but NHRA let it run all year?

Todd Hoven 10-15-2022 04:35 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
I’m sure he is a good guy and and salt of the earth. If you don’t apply the rules evenly and without prejudice that’s a problem. Do we need a court of
opinion now before any rules are enforced? Who decides on who is a good guy and who is not? Is that the new standard?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg Luneack (Post 669199)
I believe that this was an honest mistake, Joe is
not a full time racer. All of you that are complaining
give him a break, as soon as he was told it was wrong
he reported to NHRA. He was not trying to cheat, he
did not know that manifold was no longer legal.
Why is nobody bitching about the 305 engine that was
never offered in a Camaro but NHRA let it run all year?

duster1256 10-15-2022 05:09 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
Any photos of all the stockers?

Joe Schweigert 10-15-2022 06:29 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg Luneack (Post 669199)
I believe that this was an honest mistake, Joe is
not a full time racer. All of you that are complaining
give him a break, as soon as he was told it was wrong
he reported to NHRA. He was not trying to cheat, he
did not know that manifold was no longer legal.
Why is nobody bitching about the 305 engine that was
never offered in a Camaro but NHRA let it run all year?
Greg ...I'm confused the 305 was the only V8 in the early Gen 3 Camaros at least in California ?

GTX JOHN 10-15-2022 08:32 PM
Re: Divisional at Famoso
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 669195)
MY mistake = The 301 is legal at this time.
The 666 which possibly is a better intake maybe
is the one currently illegal on the 64 383.
I assume that was the problem.

The manifold rules have moved around a bit on this combo
and I am not current on it.
Well we just got back from the Class Final in D/SA.
While in the back behind the lanes while preparing for the
final = The two guys who were running this 64 came up to
me and got in my face and asked me, Are you that John Irving
that posted this reply to this thread. I replied in the affirmative.
He then said "Do you want to fight me". I have never met him before.
Most of you guys know I am in my Mid 70's and I am struggling just
to walk around after my last couple surgeries. These gentlemen are 1/2
my age!! I am very surprised at this situation!!


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