Re: Year End Power For S/SS
 

You're right Al, not sure where I got that from but I deleted it.

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Yes sir that is correct and as long as no one triggers a review it doesn't matter what the average is.

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The AHFS is used to review and evaluate runs in Stock and Super Stock for possible horsepower adjustments. The review is conducted twice per racing season. The two reviews are compiled individually so the data is not cumulative. Runs included in the AHFS database are limited to final qualifying runs (Q data) and all elimination runs (E data) at all NHRA National, Sports National and LODRS events. (At events where class eliminations are run, all class elimination runs are included in the AHFS database. Only the first round of class is part of qualifying and therefore is part of the "Q" database.)The "Q" data and "E" data files are the official data gathered by the NHRA timing system and processed through the NHRA Information Technology department. NHRA "Q" data and "E" data are the only data files used for the AHFS. No runs made during National Opens, test and tune, time trials,1/8 mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review.

The first review period includes data from National and LODRS events 1 through 12 and the second period includes runs from events 13 through 24. The following procedure is used in reviewing run data:

Final qualifying, class eliminations, and elimination runs of 1.00 seconds or more, under the index, at NHRA National, Sports Nationals, and LODRS events will trigger an automatic review. (The combination must make at least two runs of 1.00 or quicker before a review is triggered to prevent a "one time fast run" from triggering the system.) In reviewing runs of 1.00 or more under the index, the database of runs for the engine combination being reviewed are put through three screenings as listed below. The screenings will look for an overall engine family average or class/engine average faster than 0.850-second under. Runs of .350 and slower are not included in calculating the engine or class/engine averages:

Re: Year End Power For S/SS
 

Don could you understand that for me? Thanks in advance.

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Not sure what you mean to me If You go 1 second under during the first review period twice and Your overall average is more than 85 under then you will get hp or at least a review

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Another lesser known fact is this:
If you get yourself set up for some hp at the half year, someone with the exact same body style and combo in a class below or above you, cannot lower your average.
It has to be in the exact same class too.

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I certainly was not aware of that!

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Don't forget the 'mineshaft' exception, and the automatic adjustment if you run -1.20 or better regardless of mineshaft conditions.

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I hate to challenge anybody on here it never goes well - but
From personal experience we run FSSE
the overall average included D,E,F
the individual average includes each class including your class (E)
But a numskull can go far enough under in a different class (F) and generate HP for the family D,E,F

We were good overall and in (D+E never ran F) but a lone ranger in (F) got us 5hp

Three ways to get HP.

Very sorry to report - but maybe the rules changed last year.


Ron

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Ron, That's the way I read that gobble-de-gook too, but not so says Pat C.
My example: A Div.4 V6 car in N/SA goes out early in the season and makes two runs a second under, plus a couple of -.90 runs, then puts it away.
A div. 7 car in O/SA makes many runs in the -.50 under range in the same half year.
Another Div 7 car that runs P/SA, was in S/S at the time.
All three cars and classes get 3 hp. The average was not. .85 under. This happened twice now.
When inquired about, Pat C says you're wrong...( good bye , click)

So, can anyone explain this, besides the obvious?