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Andys dad 09-12-2007 10:13 PM

Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???
 
I know I should not post but I can't stand it anymore.

Are you crazy?

Would you really expect them to race?

Idiots.

If I were Mr. De Frank next time, to rub it in your face, I would not have Tony go to the line - I would stage the car - take the green light - and then back up. But - I know he would not do that.

They are very good people - have a lot more money than most - but that does not make them consirping criminals. Just Family.

If it were my son or brother and I had no realistic shot of course I would lay down - so would most other people.

This is not just in a drag race either.

For a long time, very good friend I would do the same.

I would race any friend I only know at the track.

Unbelievable dialogue here.

John Kelley 09-12-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???
 
Jeff,Graham doesn't know the Sportsman racers exist !
His directive was directed towards the Pros and NHRA's gimmicky "Countdown".
Nothing will happen in the Sportsman ranks !!! Bet on it !!

Michael Beard 09-13-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???
 
>> And since JIM DEFRANK owns the cars, maybe it wasn't Jimmy or Tony's decision either.

Fine, then that's where I would place the blame.

"Hypocrite"?!? You think maybe that's one reason why the whole thing makes me so mad? :mad: I repeatedly asked to be able to race for it. I feel that I could've won the event.

>> Unbelievable dialogue here.

We agree on that. I'm out.

Adger Smith 09-13-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???
 
I have been waiting for someone to bring up the issues Beard faced at Norwalk. Thanks Mike Carr.
We are all products of our past experiences in life. Michael Beard is no different. He has experienced a car/team owner's decision to take a round. That was the team owners decision, rightfully so. He has paid his $$ & dues to be in that position & make team decisions. ( I'm not going to debate the moral issues) I would say that calling Michael a "Hypocrite" is not the correct way to view his passion or position about throwing rounds/races. Yes, I know the on line dictionary defines "Hypocrite" as: hypocrite - a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives.
I would say he formed his opinion by first hand experience. Michael & I have spent quite a bit of time(remember he drove for me in 2004) in conversations about racing & I think I understand him. I would place a pretty strong bet on the fact that if the Norwalk car's team owner ever ask Michael to drive for him again he would probably pass on the opportunity. I feel his decision would be based on that team owner not sharing the same views as Michael on head to head team match ups. I know Michael & I share the same opinion about the quality of the people involved with that team. They, like the De Franks, are stand outs in this sport & stand up people. They are "TEAM" racers.
This topic/subject is just another one of those things in life that can be viewed as "Right or Wrong" from the position you are viewing it.

Just My .02 for free

Tim Kish 09-13-2007 12:31 PM

Re: Where's Paul Harvey with "The rest of the story" ???
 
Since regardless of your actions you can never please anyone - Let's look at the scenario that they did run for it and Tony won - If Jimmy then loses the championship by one round everyone one here will change Tony's name to Morgan Lucas. If you think that the rare occassion that two team cars run each other is a huge advantage, start thinking about the fact they have twice the data to dial the cars from all day long at every event. That is alot bigger advantage I think.

Now to Michael's point if a 10-car team went around positioned themselves on the ladders to buy round wins and dominate the points as a result - That is "abusing the system"


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