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thomas sheehan 08-14-2014 11:11 PM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
I'm not asking for "No AHFS at INDY"..... here's why>>>

(SS only) - It's one of the only races that some underfactored cars have to go fast to try and win class.
With the qualifying games that many play, the AHFS system is very slow to adjust these "soft combos". It would be a shame to give all of these combos a pass and let them cut it loose for free.

With all of this said, it very unfair for the stockers to have to play to two different sets of rules. This is not right.

But don't give these soft combos in SS another free pass.

JUST MY OPINION.

Brian Oakes 08-15-2014 02:51 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
I have to agree with Tom on this one, sure i like going fast, it might be a mine shaft there, but don't think so, looking at Bowling Green this weekend for the Combo race 80's /90's, more then likely be Indy weather, now get a carb car to run in that S"^t, Now with that great big air compressor on them new cars, it does hurt them as much, i know i'am a couple of tenths behind them, but i sure will try to run with them, FI cars are about in the same area FAST, i agree bump up the trigger point to 1.10 or 1.15 for this race only, but 1.20 get the wt bars out Monday morning, or new class letters, this is for SS cars, but stock is just as fast, let Ficacci turn that Mustang loose and watch the score boards. that's fast, anyway it should be a good race with all these cars, lets be safe and have fun. PS i heard the ford dealers out there are stocking up on Gaskets LOL just kidding see ya all there. Brian

Dick Butler 08-15-2014 08:44 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
AHFS is the only thing which can help NHRA factor without having to explain to the factories WHY? If anything it needs to be tighter because the gap in ratings from older carb cars factored for years by a pencil not an AHFS is hard to correct....

MikeFicacci 08-15-2014 09:06 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
Brian, I agree with you 100% but the issue at Indy is that in Stock Eliminator we aren't all playing by the same rules when it comes to qualifying. In the grand scheme of things I think we should implement qualifying/records point systems to help the AHFS work faster.

Ernie Neal 08-15-2014 09:42 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas sheehan (Post 441590)
I'm not asking for "No AHFS at INDY"..... here's why>>>

(SS only) - It's one of the only races that some underfactored cars have to go fast to try and win class.
With the qualifying games that many play, the AHFS system is very slow to adjust these "soft combos". It would be a shame to give all of these combos a pass and let them cut it loose for free.

With all of this said, it very unfair for the stockers to have to play to two different sets of rules. This is not right.

But don't give these soft combos in SS another free pass.

JUST MY OPINION.

Tom, you are spot on. I have to agree, that numerous normally higher qualifieds have been saving it for Indy. Will they be willing to give some of it up? I think so, it's Indy. Do they need horsepower to bring them into perspective? Yes, we all know the rules and we still participate.

Do we think for one minute that competitors are doing it for the contingency money? lol! Wally? I would have to go with bragging rights.

I understand these guys in the stands and behind the computer, even NHRA don't want to see 1000 footers, but leave AHFS in place. It is the only leveling mechanism we have against new production factory hp ratings and cubic dollar$. It should be for all stock and superstock and not protected under some factory showcase.

Ernie Neal
SS 354

Mickey Whaley 08-15-2014 09:57 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
just give all the old cars their horsepower back and we may have a chance

Bill Grubbs 08-15-2014 10:40 AM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 441611)
just give all the old cars their horsepower back and we may have a chance

50-100 hp?

Yeah...Right!!!

Bruce Noland 08-15-2014 12:37 PM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
Just new car guys looking for more freebies. Doesn't do squat for 90% of older cars.

Mickey Whaley 08-15-2014 01:35 PM

Re: Indy - No AHFS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 441619)
50-100 hp?

Yeah...Right!!!

I know we might need 200 hp to keep up with the paper cars a total shame and a bunch of ballchit


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