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Ed Wright 06-18-2014 11:28 AM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
That break was caused by the spun bearing.

joespanova 06-18-2014 11:42 AM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 435305)
That break was caused by the spun bearing.

Well , in the end , I blame myself for be stupid enough to A) continue to run it when I KNEW the rods had been in there for a while and B ) being too lazy to tear it down over the winter where I may have seen a problem.....but , like I said I'm a slow learner:mad:

Glenn Briglio 06-18-2014 12:12 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Bearings don't usually fail by themselves. The connecting rod dimensions change or oil supply changes.

Ed Wright 06-18-2014 12:16 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Or clearances were wrong to begin with.

joespanova 06-18-2014 12:40 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 435310)
Or clearances were wrong to begin with.

Not in this case. I'm a machinist for a major airline for 26 years.........and years prior to that. I have and have access to , every conceivable bore gauge and mic's anyone would need.
I assemble and check them........no chance in hell they were wrong.
Generally .0025-.003 at the vertical. Or whatever the rod manufacturer suggests.
I just ran it too long without an exam or freshening.

joespanova 06-18-2014 12:42 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio (Post 435309)
The connecting rod dimensions change .

I suspect this was the case.............:confused:

Ed Wright 06-18-2014 02:30 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joespanova (Post 435311)
Not in this case. I'm a machinist for a major airline for 26 years.........and years prior to that. I have and have access to , every conceivable bore gauge and mic's anyone would need.
I assemble and check them........no chance in hell they were wrong.
Generally .0025-.003 at the vertical. Or whatever the rod manufacturer suggests.
I just ran it too long without an exam or freshening.

SBC? Why so much clearance? You do know that aluminium rod will expand much faster than the steel crank, right? Imagine how loose they are at operating temps. I don't run my steel rods that loose.

Dion Hildebrandt 06-18-2014 02:41 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio (Post 435309)
Bearings don't usually fail by themselves. The connecting rod dimensions change or oil supply changes.

Mine was instigated by detonation

joespanova 06-18-2014 06:37 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 435319)
SBC? Why so much clearance? You do know that aluminium rod will expand much faster than the steel crank, right? Imagine how loose they are at operating temps. I don't run my steel rods that loose.

Well , I don't know what to tell ya........engine builders a lot smarter than me have run em that way for years........if I ran em tighter and it failed I'd be blaming it on that.........

Ed Wright 06-18-2014 08:29 PM

Re: Steel rod life expectancy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dion Hildebrandt (Post 435321)
Mine was instigated by detonation

Yep. Hammering the bearings causes the ends to pull in & squeegee oil off the crank. Too much clearance often has the same effect, just takes longer.


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