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joe huestis 10-18-2013 10:14 PM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 405035)
I've been reading the posts on this subject and thought I would share a few of my thoughts on this post.A friend of mine who hasn't raced in quite a while called me up one day and asked if would help him build a stocker because that's what he ran a long time ago. When I asked him what he was going to run he said 1982 267motored Monte Carlo. At first I thought he was goofy but as he ran a Pinto and Mustang II with the 4 cylinder I thought well It will sure be different.As we got the car going I thought thought that there was no way that I would want to drive something that slow.As it turned out he ran into some health Issues and couldn't drive so I ended up driving for Now .I'll tell you that running it is every bit as much fun as driving the Nova I have. You never ever have to worry about spinning and I have a lot more time for my feeble brain to catch up with with what I'm supposed to be doing while I'm going down the track. I really feel that with all trend for having all these fast stockers nowadays that maybe going the other way ( slow) is the way to go. Bill
Bill,
I once owned an '81 Malibu with the 267 as a second car. Was curious as how your friend's car runs with that combo. I always felt the dual jet carb was too restrictive. What ET are you running with it ? What MPH ? What rear gear does it run , etc. I too am a big fan of slower stockers ! Thanks !

lvd2340 10-19-2013 12:39 PM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 405035)
I've been reading the posts on this subject and thought I would share a few of my thoughts on this post.A friend of mine who hasn't raced in quite a while called me up one day and asked if would help him build a stocker because that's what he ran a long time ago. When I asked him what he was going to run he said 1982 267motored Monte Carlo. At first I thought he was goofy but as he ran a Pinto and Mustang II with the 4 cylinder I thought well It will sure be different.As we got the car going I thought thought that there was no way that I would want to drive something that slow.As it turned out he ran into some health Issues and couldn't drive so I ended up driving for Now .I'll tell you that running it is every bit as much fun as driving the Nova I have. You never ever have to worry about spinning and I have a lot more time for my feeble brain to catch up with with what I'm supposed to be doing while I'm going down the track. I really feel that with all trend for having all these fast stockers nowadays that maybe going the other way ( slow) is the way to go. Bill
This is kind of how i feel, everyone seems to want to be at the fast end of the class now. If you race something at the slow end you'll get use to racing against all these fast cars, almost every one of your runs you'll be the slower car judging a faster car. I raced a 12sec car in Super Pro for two years and got use to judging the stripe on 7 & 8sec racers. My thought is they only get the chance to race against someone that slow a couple of times if that a season where as i being the slower car will be judging the faster ones all the time.

442OLDS 10-19-2013 01:42 PM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 405035)
I really feel that with all trend for having all these fast stockers nowadays that maybe going the other way ( slow) is the way to go. Bill
You might be on to something.The price of U/SA cars may be going up soon.

Bill Bogues 10-20-2013 12:50 AM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Joe: This weekend we took it to track and made 5 time trials with it. Started out with a 14.71@87.3mph , ended up running a 14.49@88.7. In between went 14.60,14.58,and 14.52.Started out with timing at 40, then moved it to 37,finally left it at 35for last three passes. 60fts went from1.88 to best on last passof 1.82. We're running a 5.57 gear in it now; crosses line at 6000 with 92inch Hossier radials.To me it's as much fun to try stuff with itto make it go as it is to race it. Bill

Billy Nees 10-20-2013 08:43 AM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 405099)
The price of U/SA cars may be going up soon.
Woo woo! I'm rich!

Billy Nees 10-20-2013 08:45 AM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 405150)
To me it's as much fun to try stuff with it to make it go as it is to race it. Bill
Bill, don't let my secret out!

Dave Gantz 10-20-2013 09:26 AM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 405019)
Was Mike Smith the last National event finalist in U/SA?
I should know when Mike was last a finalist, he was a friend of mine. But, it's been a while.
He was number 5 in the points one year with the red 65 Belvedere wagon that he bought from Dick Moreland (it was black when Dick owned it). I think the year was '84, I'm not sure. So that was probably the only year he was in a final, but I may be wrong. I imagine somebody has done it since?
Maybe Grape will chime in with more details.

joe huestis 10-20-2013 01:04 PM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bogues (Post 405150)
Joe: This weekend we took it to track and made 5 time trials with it. Started out with a 14.71@87.3mph , ended up running a 14.49@88.7. In between went 14.60,14.58,and 14.52.Started out with timing at 40, then moved it to 37,finally left it at 35for last three passes. 60fts went from1.88 to best on last passof 1.82. We're running a 5.57 gear in it now; crosses line at 6000 with 92inch Hossier radials.To me it's as much fun to try stuff with itto make it go as it is to race it. Bill
I am impressed with your progress. I know all about the fun factor you are having with this car. When I used to run my Monza in T with the 262 and made a good pass after flogging it , I felt like I was Larry Lombardo in Jenkin's car back in the day !

Mark Yacavone 10-20-2013 02:18 PM
Re: Best thing about U/SA?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 405166)
I should know when Mike was last a finalist, he was a friend of mine. But, it's been a while.
He was number 5 in the points one year with the red 65 Belvedere wagon that he bought from Dick Moreland (it was black when Dick owned it). I think the year was '84, I'm not sure. So that was probably the only year he was in a final, but I may be wrong. I imagine somebody has done it since?
Maybe Grape will chime in with more details.
Pretty sure Mike won @ Commerce in the late 80's, and maybe another final or two...Nat's ,Div's ??
Mike knew that car like the back of his hand...That's what it takes to win with a 14 sec. car .... Put it right on the money , with a good light. Holding back .02 against someone who's also holding .02, .03, .04...is a crap shoot at best...in my opinion
I'm pretty sure he's the most recent winner...dial in style

Bob Shaw won a CIC race in U/SA , I believe.

Franklin DeBart (Johhny D's son) might have won something with Billy's blue 6 cyl. Nova.

Neil Smedley 10-20-2013 03:04 PM
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It was not that long ago that Billy Nees won 2 divisional races back to back with his trusty 6cyl Nova.................


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