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Signman 05-17-2013 09:51 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
If the reason the racer was unwilling to hand over the belts to NHRA was to have something to return for refund to who he gave is hard earned dollar; the racer has the right to do so.

If NHRA wanted the belts to investigate the counterfeiter they should have offered to reimburse the racer his monetary loss or supply him with a valid set of belts.

If the racer immediately purchased and replaced his belts, had not passed tech NHRA morally has no ground to suspend or fine.
There may be something in the rules but racers pay good money for membership and race entry therefore NHRA should have that in mind. Who are the customers?

Dave Ribeiro 05-17-2013 10:33 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
This looks like pay-back for something Bob may have gotten away with in the past ... We should wait to hear Bob's side before we start casting doubt's ... Bob & Bugs are good people and don't deserved to be judged by any of us at this time... Let's wait and see, Who's next ???

SSDiv6 05-17-2013 11:03 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 381841)
This makes racers look bad especially sportsman racers....I agree with the above, just give the belts up and save the negative publicity on both sides. What a waiste of time. Class racers are not looking for cheat ways out of rules and NHRA has rules to enforce.

There has to be more to this story and a GOOD reason why Bob did not give up the seat belts.

If Bob purchased belts from a vendor or a manufacturer and they were counterfeit, there is a product liability issue between Bob, the vendor or the manufacturer.

As regards to SFI, they are not that smart either when creating requirements and guidelines for the motorsports industry. I have dealt with them many times on requirement and guidance matters and proven them wrong with actual analysis and studies, nevertheless, they did not care and just implemented the guidance.

art leong 05-17-2013 11:25 AM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Is it possible that the belts were legal? And the tech guys were mistaken?

Dan Bernay 05-17-2013 01:22 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
There is something more here than meets the eye.
Mr Dennis has been racing to long to make such a mistake.
We can speculate all we want here but until all the facts are known that's all it is - speculation .

Evan Smith 05-17-2013 03:29 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Sounds like a lot of speculation and that leads to misinformation.

Sammy, stock belts may be strong, but they are not designed for a high-speed crash. The race belts we wear are designed to stretch so as to absorb energy and not cause us internal injury. I doubt factory belts would do this in a crash that is beyond highway speeds.

Dan Wilson 05-17-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
I an on suspension for a year so I wont make a comment on this until the suspension is over.
Dan

Toby Lang 05-17-2013 04:00 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
I'm curious as to why both of them got suspended. Do they have to pay $5000 each or $5000 for the both of them?

C and W Racing 05-17-2013 04:51 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 381885)
I'm curious as to why both of them got suspended. Do they have to pay $5000 each or $5000 for the both of them?

I can only assume that maybe she is listed as the car owner. In reading about it, it sounds like the total fine is $5000
Chuck

Tom keedle 05-17-2013 04:54 PM

Re: Racer Suspension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Smith (Post 381879)
Sounds like a lot of speculation and that leads to misinformation.

Sammy, stock belts may be strong, but they are not designed for a high-speed crash. The race belts we wear are designed to stretch so as to absorb energy and not cause us internal injury. I doubt factory belts would do this in a crash that is beyond highway speeds.

so why bother to tighten them if they're going to 'stretch' anyway?


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