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Steve Hurley 12-20-2011 09:21 PM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Currently there is only one car competing as p/sa(55chevy) in div 1. I had a friend drive Shelby's car at cecil county.

No games, nothing to hide, that's all we have.

If we need to run the index to get horsepower correction, I am out of ideas, unless I use a 283 shortblock LoL.

Robert Simpson 12-20-2011 09:25 PM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dahkahuna (Post 300063)
Bunkster, Yes their is a difference between the 205 hp 56 265 and the 180hp 55 factored 205 engines the 1956 engine is available with the larger Rochester carb thats why it is 205 hp both the Carter and the Rochester were available in 1956 splain that Lucy (NHRA) ? the Carter carbs are the same SPEC but the Rochester( Mr. Benny) is larger.

This is true until you look at the carbs side by side and compare them, flow bench, on track etc. The 205hp on the 56 is incorrect it should be lower. The 180/205hp is incorrect. Steve H. and his daughter are very sharp and good racers if he says it runs that, then that is what it runs. The 55 has a one off intake, unlike the 283's, it has to keep the powerglide (which it should) unlike some other combos that now are allowed a 3speed autos, etc. Keep submiting your letters and making your case. If I could I would build another one. These older cars have allot of personallity and they stand out from the other year cars. It is a game and it depends on how you play it. Steve H. I will send you a PM about this.

Robert

KRatcliff 12-20-2011 09:27 PM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Hurley (Post 300079)
Currently there is only one car competing as p/sa(55chevy) in div 1. I had a friend drive Shelby's car at cecil county.

No games, nothing to hide, that's all we have.

If we need to run the index to get horsepower correction, I am out of ideas, unless I use a 283 shortblock LoL.

Actually running a 10th under the index or slower won't get a review. You have to run quicker than a 10th under, but no more than .65 under twice or .85 under once to get a review for a reduction.

Tony Janes 12-20-2011 10:10 PM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
.101 Under is the correct figure

treessavoy 12-20-2011 11:04 PM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
The reason you don't see any pre '60's cars racing is answered in the above pages....what are you going to race other than a '55-'57 Chevy and they aren't competitive under exisiting rules.

JimR

Lew Silverman 12-21-2011 12:10 AM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
So what are the chances that NHRA will open up the Stock Car Classification Guide and add something besides pre-1960 Cadillac's and Chevrolet's? Right now that's all that's available. Think the J-2 Oldsmobile or Twin-H Power Hudson would make an interesting stocker if the horsepower factor was realistic? Or a Y-block Ford Fairlane called "Maybelline"!;)

Lew

67chevygary 12-21-2011 12:39 AM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
So-after aquiring the needed parts to get my '57-150 to run m/sa with one wcfb or k/sa with the 2x4 setup is the consensus here that I'm wasting my time-money and effort on a project that cannot compete?

Paul Precht 12-21-2011 01:17 AM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 300118)
So what are the chances that NHRA will open up the Stock Car Classification Guide and add something besides pre-1960 Cadillac's and Chevrolet's? Right now that's all that's available. Think the J-2 Oldsmobile or Twin-H Power Hudson would make an interesting stocker if the horsepower factor was realistic? Or a Y-block Ford Fairlane called "Maybelline"!;)

Lew

Back in 1970, a friend in HS had a 57 T Bird with a 312, that would be a cool car to run. A 58 Fury like Christine with a dual quad 350 rated at 310 HP would be moderately competitive, basically a 383/343 with a smaller bore and a little less cam lift, I think NHRA want's all the old cars and old farts to go away, in a way I see their point, our time has come and gone.

Aubrey N Bruneau 12-21-2011 02:44 AM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 300130)
I think NHRA want's all the old cars and old farts to go away, in a way I see their point, our time has come and gone.

I personally, would pay money just to be in the same pits as Hayden Proffitt.
But then I'm the same guy who will actually look away when a D/P Mopar, or "supercharged Mustang makes a pass.

It's all personal tastes. 55 Chevy 265's, Red Ram Hemi's, Y block Fords, are really what kicked this off. Let's show a little respect !

LONG LIVE THE REAL CARS, AND the OLD FARTS WHO DRIVE THEM !

dahkahuna 12-21-2011 04:06 AM

Re: Where are the pre 1960 stockers?
 
Old and Cagey has beat Young and Cocky on more than one occasion fellas just remember you have to know were you've been before you can get where your going (Old Guys Rule) behind every champion is his Father, I didnt change the rule to let 1955 cars in NHRA did but us OLD GUYS arent stupid , we know when were getting a bad deal. Factor these engines correctly, thats all we ask and let the front tires get the win light not the wallet. After all its just bracket (brake) racing . All factory race cars really only were started being run in about 1962 (409 impalas , max wedge mopars, 427 fairlanes-galaxies-mustangsetc.) so that would make all those muscle cars of the 1960's 50 years old this year Long live the boomer generation.


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