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Re: Can they win?

Every single driver in Stock has the exact same chance of winning.

However, with one exception.....unless the driver pairs up with someone in the same class.

Statistically, a driver in a slower class will less likely have a heads up pairing.

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 299204)

One issue with slower cars is everything affects you more than a fast car. It is all about percentages If an air change happens at the last minute both cars will lose say 2% in et. So a 10 second car will lose .2 where a 13 second car would lose .26 this is why you keep seeing faster and faster bracket cars.

.2 seconds ?
Wow, if my slow bracket car varies by that much, it's not because of weather. .2 seconds is a bunch !

Mine might vary .02 seconds, maybe.

Re: Can they win?

Brian Seibenick ended up in third place in points in D3 in a car that runs in R/SA and T/SA. He is a bright guy (one exception-he is friends with me, but he makes up for that by being friends with Steve Ambrose and Bob Huettman) and is going to even better as a driver. I'd be surprised if he doesn't win a race soon.

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 300372)

Every single driver in Stock has the exact same chance of winning.

Quite the opposite. I would say that no two drivers have the exact same chance of winning.

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Everyone in stock dials soft Havent youins noticed that.

Nope! :D

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reason why is I want them fast cars to sit on the line why i peel the tree apart and leave them nothing. If a hitter or faster car feels you left them nothing on 1 end they have a tendency to push it and screw up!!

Quit reminding me. :p I wish you would hit the tree someday, then you'd earn all them redlights I hand you! LOL

Phillbilly's been on both ends of this one... World Champ rookie in a slow car, killer multi-time bracket champ in a fast car. But when he's in the fast car, he's not licking his chops when the Turismo or Anthony Walton's GMC is in the other lane!

Statistically, faster cars are easier to drive, more consistent, and easier to drive the stripe with. Slow cars have some (top secret) advantages of their own, however. :rolleyes: But realistically, the chance of a driver winning in one car is going to be different from the next, or a different driver in the same car, or the same car & driver combination in a different situation. Drag racing is nothing *but* variables. But that's what keeps it interesting. :cool:

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 300381)

Quite the opposite. I would say that no two drivers have the exact same chance of winning..

Please explain.
I am curious .....

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by almack (Post 300399)

please explain.
I am curious .....

dwa!!!!!

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 300409)

dwa!!!!!

HEY! I resemble that remark!

Re: Can they win?

It's great to see this discussion! I guess I had better get busy and get my SS/MA car done afterall!

Tim

Re: Can they win?

Seems to me that everyone has gone quick and its like Beard has said multiple times there are just not as many cars in the slower classes. From my prospective if we had more cars in the slower classes the win probability would be a lot better but its hard to do when 2/3rds of your field is made up of M/S and above.

Re: Can they win?

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Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 300399)

Please explain.
I am curious .....

Different drivers have different driving abilities, be it avg reaction time, staging consistency, shift point consistency (or adjustability), dialing strategy, prediction and execution, .... I won't provide an exhaustive list as I'm typing on my phone, but suffice it to say that the variables are endless.