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cutta 12-22-2011 02:27 AM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Within a few years, the street roadsters in comp will be knocking on the 7.40's so a cert will have to be developed sooner or later. They are going 7.60's now and will probably go 7.50's in mineshaft air.

Adger Smith 12-22-2011 09:10 AM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
NHRA will probably do like they did before and Change up the class. Back in the 90's they did away with the 5.5 lb per cu in "A" class and moved "B" up to "A". They could downsize the cu in of the class. They might even add weight. You can bet they will slow them down rather than re cert them. The areo on any Comp Legal Street roadster has no business going that quick.

TS310C 12-22-2011 02:34 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 300109)
As Jeff said the usual left steer roadster had a frame that was a system of hoops with the cage sitting on top. Since they were off center it appears that in crashes they were getting twisted off, along with the driver's head and upper body. Even the well built left steer roadsters, Cage hoop running all the way to the lower frame rails, is required to put in the little gussets. There is daylight and dark difference in the center steer alterteds and left steer roadsters. The new Vette bodies are way more aero and the old 27's are like a wing flying upside down. Bad areo. They have no place in TS if you ask me. That is just an accident waiting to kill someone. Yes, I feel I can speak as an authority on left steer roadster. I'm a left steer roadster owner and a survivor of another one that crash @ 154 mph. (Vinny's Comp World champ car)
Just so I understand what you are saying here... You think that a full bodied car is safer than a left hand steer roadster? If that is in fact what you are saying, you never saw some of the cars that used to run T/S in div 3. LOL

C and W Racing 12-22-2011 03:33 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
I had mentioned in an earlier post that I don't think that the roadsters will certify any faster than a 7.50. I think that is why they won't let them in. They wont let a door car in unless is has a 6.0 tag on it, even if it will only run 7.90's. NHRA is not going to start trying to police which car has what cert and making sure its not running faster than it is certified for, so the easiest way to do that is not let a 7.50 cert in the class. At least thats my 2 cents worth. lol
Chuck

Bill Baer 12-27-2011 10:38 AM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Ryan

Obviously a roadster like yours would have a couple of advantages in top sportsman it 's lighter and has much better visibility to drive the finish line.
So if they allowed cars like yours in, it would soon make door cars obsolete.
As far as top dragster it think there could be a safety concern with short wheel base roadsters running in the 200+MPH range (It may not have happened yet, but if allowed it surely would)
So I don't forsee these thing changing in near the future.

TS310C 12-27-2011 12:41 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Baer (Post 301069)
Ryan

Obviously a roadster like yours would have a couple of advantages in top sportsman it 's lighter and has much better visibility to drive the finish line.
So if they allowed cars like yours in, it would soon make door cars obsolete.
As far as top dragster it think there could be a safety concern with short wheel base roadsters running in the 200+MPH range (It may not have happened yet, but if allowed it surely would)
So I don't forsee these thing changing in near the future.
Bill, I see what you are saying but.... The top sportsman fields have been faster than the top dragster fields several times. My point is that the shorter wheelbase top sportsman cars are often faster than most of the top dragster cars (not all of them, but several). They also are allowed to run altereds in top dragster and they have short wheelbases too. Some of them are pretty out of control.

C and W Racing 12-27-2011 01:22 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 300413)
I had mentioned in an earlier post that I don't think that the roadsters will certify any faster than a 7.50. I think that is why they won't let them in. They wont let a door car in unless is has a 6.0 tag on it, even if it will only run 7.90's. NHRA is not going to start trying to police which car has what cert and making sure its not running faster than it is certified for, so the easiest way to do that is not let a 7.50 cert in the class. At least thats my 2 cents worth. lol
Chuck
Ryan, what will your roadster certify to? If you know the answer, then you know the reason
Chuck

TS310C 12-27-2011 01:25 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 301091)
Ryan, what will your roadster certify to? If you know the answer, then you know the reason
Chuck

My car is plenty safe to go high 7's (which is all the faster it will go). Not saying I could qualify at every race, but I could at some.

C and W Racing 12-27-2011 01:33 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Ryan, I don't doubt that your car is plenty safe. Like I keep trying to say though is, a top sportsman car has to cert to 6.0. NHRA will not let a 7.50 car run top sportsman. Roadsters wont certify to that, so they are not going to let one in the class. Don't shoot the messenger
Chuck

TS310C 12-27-2011 01:58 PM
Re: Roadsters in TS or TD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 301094)
Ryan, I don't doubt that your car is plenty safe. Like I keep trying to say though is, a top sportsman car has to cert to 6.0. NHRA will not let a 7.50 car run top sportsman. Roadsters wont certify to that, so they are not going to let one in the class. Don't shoot the messenger
Chuck
Thats actually not true according to the rule book. You only have to be certified for as fast as you are running.


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