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Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

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Originally Posted by thomas sheehan (Post 290057)

Art.... I agree with you on most points (ex....like more rds in combo gets less points).

HOWEVER... If you read the rules again, you will notice that 17 cars gets you 90 points in the combo. I read this after I entered Maple Grove in GT/IA (2 cars in class got me 85 points). If I would have entered in GT/JA (class I was in for 2 races prior to that event), It would have made it an 18 car combo field (me and other GT/IA racer would have added 2 more to combo class) thus awarding the winner 90 points instead of usual combo 80 points (for less than 17 car field). I could have wrapped up the SS automatic points chase if I would have won that 5 rd race. No one at Vegas could have got 90 points because all the class fields in SS are under 17 cars.

I wish I would have known that prior to the race.

I don't have the data in front of me for car counts at each event that ran class but I believe it to be true that all season there were no events that had enough cars in a combo to get this 90 point win. So again as we look at the flawed system - there is more emphasis ($$) for the points win at the end of the season than any individual event win (which you would expect) yet its out of your individual control how many other people show up in your class yet your are penalized for it by having to run in the combo against others who may not be as evenly factored as you and by running for a reduced amount of points for the win. I know my situation of running a class with only currently 2 cars in the country a single is most likely. So since I can not move to another class I can only hope there are 17 singles or its mathematically impossible for me to have a shot at the season points before I ever unload the car. Fine my fault for not building a Mustang/Camaro like most everyone else. But wait - in the combo at Indy I had to run a SS/CA Cobra Jet Mustang in the combo. So even a historically popular class with one of the most competitive combinations available currently can still be a single at a major event so its not a matter of running an obscure combo or not. The only way to control it is to go the Bob Dennis route and bring your own 2 cars in the same class, doesn't gaurantee a win as others could also run that class but does gaurantee your not in the combo running for reduced points.

I don't think there should be an advantage/disadvantage given for the # of cars in a class - class win should be XX points whether its one pair of cars or 18 cars in the combo. Yes you have to work harder for it in the combo and that doesn't fix that the national record holder in one class with a stiff factor can get smoked by an average or below average performer in a lesser factored class when running off the indexes. At least if the points were level you wouldn't have the situation where you are eliminated from the points championship before you ever stage the car.

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

Hey Charley

Who's car did you barrow???

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 290236)

Bill koski car

Cool.

Thought it might have been a car Mark Yacavone had, if he still has one. He used to have a real fast mustang against the index at one time I think?

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

So , who are the 4 winners ? Is it Patterson (ss auto ?), Charley (stk stick) and who else and more important what did they win ?

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

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Originally Posted by Dave Casey (Post 290247)

So , who are the 4 winners ? Is it Patterson (ss auto ?), Charley (stk stick) and who else and more important what did they win ?

Should be close to ten grand, the biggest Wally they can find, a really cool jacket, two pages a piece in the last dragster of the year.......after the required trip to the barn for crank, rod, piston weighing, CCing of this and that and verification of parts use as claimed!

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

At $500 per contingency sponsor it seems like a number around $5000 (plus or minus a bit) is much more likely based on the ones who pay. But there are the bragging rights that come with the whole thing.

First ever National (Super Stock Auto, Super Stock Stick, Stock Auto, Stock Stick) Champions.

And only four will be able to claim those awards for 2011.

Pretty cool for whoever has the best built, and most consistent cars and drivers in Stock.

Whoever wins it, will surely have earned it, by capturing appropriate points, and accumulating tie breakers where necessary.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

Congrats to the Rev and Dave.

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

First, Congratulations to Charley Bob.

And congratulating us (Keith is the Rev, and you know me....) is also very nice of you Charley Bob!

It was still on the table right up to the finals in A/SA. If we win it, we win everything. And if Joey wins it, he gets it all.

Joey had a shot in Class Finals, and needed a couple of things to go right. They gave it a go, and it would have been one heck of a race, had their starter not failed.But as Jeff posted previously, they needed to win first, and then go 1.28 under to take the next tie breaker (coincidentally we held it at 1.27).

But we were lining up, and even pulled off to wait for them when we got word that they were broken, and we should line up and run a single...

And that gentlemen....... is racing.

Once again, congratulations to Charley Bob as National Stock Stick Class Champion. And we are pleased to have won the National Stock Automatic Class Championship.

And for those who always wonder, Charley Bob's car (aka The Charley Horse) and my car (The Mega Maniac) have both recently successfully passed tear downs.

David
The New Hemi Guy

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Class Champion

Did anyone win with a carb car? If all new cars won don't forget to thank NHRA for the low HP ratings and the .3 second reduction in index and the raising of the automatic trigger.

Such a crock.