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Matt Welker 01-17-2011 11:58 AM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris3racing (Post 233667)
And there is a brake-out go faster than your class index and your out.

If both cars break-out, do they both lose? This is just bracket racing with a forced dial, like the super classes. Think about it, if you "go faster than your class index", you will be faster on the score board and lose. The cars left at the same time, whoopee. Do fans really care about that so much it will save racing? This is not heads up racing. There would be more dumping in these classes than during class eliminations!

X-TECH MAN 01-17-2011 12:08 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
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Originally Posted by denbreeden (Post 233620)
I ran Unleashed at Indy last year in the 10.0 class. The one thing that I didn't like was the 2 cars we watched in the 9.0 class using a throttle stop. The race director warned us all about using throttle stops and even said they would tear down any car they suspected of cheating. One of the throttle stop cars made it to the quarter finals, yet no one seemed to notice his car falling on it's face everytime it launched, running 9.01 or 9.02 every round. I like the heads up racing on a pro tree a lot, I just wish they would make everyone follow the rules.

How was this allowed from the beginning if the electronic aids were forbidden ?Why didnt anyone complain and have the cars in question DQ'ed? Does anyone know the full weitten rules of what is allowed and not allowed and index breaks of the Unleashed deal ?

Rollins_2241 01-17-2011 12:10 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Correct, it is "just like the Super classes"...except for all the timers.

Wrong, it really is heads-up racing. With a breakout, like every other Sportsman class.

Correct, there will be lots of dumping - there was at Unleashed. Just like the Super classes.

What's not to like, except the fact that many of your 632s to run 8.90 and 9.90 would be obsolete in these classes? If you don't like them, don't run them, don't even watch them, start the grill a bit early.

Daran Summerton 01-17-2011 12:11 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
No throttle stops or timers, Nitrous is permitted. Super Street could be a great class if same rules applied and they ran at National events. Yes there will be whomping at the end but it's better then cars on the stop which is very painful for me to watch and most to understand. I believe big mph will still have a advantage. I'm guessing alot of high gear foggers or big plate systems.

Ed Wright 01-17-2011 12:20 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Lord, I would hate to think I needed to spray one to run 10, 11 or 12 flat. Big MPH in a car that slow? Seriously?

Daran Summerton 01-17-2011 12:26 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
12 flat @ 130 mph! Stock converter - 3.08's and a 400 shot!!!

Chad Rhodes 01-17-2011 12:28 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollins_2241 (Post 233728)
Correct, it is "just like the Super classes"...except for all the timers.

Wrong, it really is heads-up racing. With a breakout, like every other Sportsman class.

Correct, there will be lots of dumping - there was at Unleashed. Just like the Super classes.

What's not to like, except the fact that many of your 632s to run 8.90 and 9.90 would be obsolete in these classes? If you don't like them, don't run them, don't even watch them, start the grill a bit early.

wrong. Heads up runs in stock and ss do not have a break out, heads up classes such as outlaw drag radial, outlaw 10.5 etc are heads up, they do not have a break out. All this is is what the super classes were before electronics.

danny waters sr 01-17-2011 12:30 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Can you say "Spray @ Dump"...............

Michael Beard 01-17-2011 12:32 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 233725)
How was this allowed from the beginning if the electronic aids were forbidden ?Why didnt anyone compalain and have the cars in question DQ'ed? Does anyone know the full weitten rules of what is allowed and not allowed and index breaks of the Unleashed deal ?

Does anyone even know if those cars were running a throttle stop? Just because they fell on their face didn't mean they had timers. I've done it with my street pickup truck at Dragway 42 for their 20.0* index class New Year's Day. Launch in Low 1, run it up to a certain rpm, lift, let it drop to a certain rpm, get back in it, put it in Drive. 19.97 on the first run, adjust rpm from there. It's not that hard.

$.02,

X-TECH MAN 01-17-2011 01:25 PM

Re: D2 races to include 3 Unleashed classes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 233729)
No throttle stops or timers, Nitrous is permitted. Super Street could be a great class if same rules applied and they ran at National events. Yes there will be whomping at the end but it's better then cars on the stop which is very painful for me to watch and most to understand. I believe big mph will still have a advantage. I'm guessing alot of high gear foggers or big plate systems.

F##K Nitrous ! Build the damn thing to run the number and SLIGHTLY quicker. Use a blower or turbo if you want but Nitrous.....No way !


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