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I'll try and do a spread sheet on how many headsup run's would happen on .75 versus 1.0 weight breaks. Just for fun:D And yes Im bored!!! hahaha!

stacy

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Bracket racer and fan of stock here. How about getting rid of the handicap start? Drivers would not know when to lift if there was no one next to them. Yes, cars will still be driven in bracket mode but at least they would be kind of forced to make a full pass for consistancy sake, would'nt they? It may not flush out much more performance but at least it would put an stop to the top end nonsense and make life more difficult for the sandbaggers. Not trying to be a smart ***, if this makes no sense please explain.

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Originally Posted by 6point6 (Post 225071)

If you did this it would be just like time trials, No racing at all.

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Here's my idea.One car lines up on the starting line.The other car lines up in the other lane on a starting line 1/2 mile down the track.Handicap start and both cars race to the finish line.No clean/dirty tree,no fast car advantage chasing and as much sense as some of the bull$hit that's being suggested.
How about we all band together and pressure the powers that be to fix the HP/AHFS mess.

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Originally Posted by ed fernandez (Post 225096)

how about we all band together and pressure the powers that be to fix the hp/ahfs mess.

lots of luck with this suggestion !

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I agree with the no break out concept but in the final round only as it would;

1. Places more emphasis back on performance incase you made the final

2. First car to finish line winner making it easier for spectators to relate, I.e. Pinks all out

3. Who wouldn't give up 5 HP for a national win (some poor drivers may have to give up even more)

Jim Parsons

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more emphasis on performance

how about class winners only

then Ed you would have to spent some money

everybody saids to fix the system afnbchyz what every it is, BUT nobody has given one good ideal

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hope to see you there

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The answer to that would be what NHRA did a couple of years ago with class winners at the Indy nationals.

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino (Post 225350)

Vic,I'm po.

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 224709)

Art, It'll never fly! NHRA tried it and almost killed Stock.
Now if you want to try something different (and I don't, I'm just talking here) keep the index system as it is for a reference point. Each race starts out with the indexes as we know them, they don't change from race to race. After qualifing, the fastest run in a given class becomes the "index" for that race. In eliminations, a racer can dial up to 3 tenths SLOWER than the "index" or up to 1 tenth FASTER than the "index". Example, the SS/AH index is a 9.30, the fastest SS/AH car in qualifing goes an 8.50. The "index" for this race becomes an 8.50. All SS/AH racers at this race must dial between an 8.40 and an 8.80. All heads-up runs are still flat out. At the end of the day the "index" reverts back to the index. There would still have to be some kind of an AHFS in play or maybe a panel of racers and techs to factor and defactor out of line combos but maybe the triggers could be dialed back.
There ya go, the fast guys can "wag their d**ks" and the not so fast guys have to "work on their stuff" to stay within 3 tenths of the fast guys. Problem solved, now I'm gonna work on world peace.

Billy, I like your idea the best so far... especially now that all of those turbo mopars aren't in DF/S anymore...at least I'll have a little bit more of a chance at this. Furthermore, since I'm one of only two (known of) DF/S racers in the southwest (or four west of Missouri?), and we all run nearly the same, then with your ideal we'd all have a chance to be competitive...the turbos have A, B, & CF/S...leave DF/S to us normally aspirated racers!!!