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Greg Hill 09-14-2010 10:51 AM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 210459)
Yeah I've always run "bogus combos" 1970 RT Challenger convertible (hemi), 1987 Dodge Shadow turbo I. (Real bogus they only made milliuons of them LOL) 1991 Dodge Spirit ES (another rare find LOL)
And last but not least the rareest of them all a Dodge Neon. Do you realize the only way you could get one was to buy it. You had to be one of those special people with real money."The inhumanity of it all"

LOL LOL
I can't believe you or anyone else can defend this bogus BS. These cars have no business in the traditional stock classes, they were never produced as a street legal car and the motors are not even crate motors. They are just a bunch of parts from the hi po catalogs of Ford and Chrysler. Let me have a set of fast burn heads, a 520 solid roller cam, a victor intake and a dominator carb plus 11.5 to 1 compression and rate my motor at 285 and let the games begin.

art leong 09-14-2010 10:57 AM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 210561)
I can't believe you or anyone else can defend this bogus BS. These cars have no business in the traditional stock classes, they were never produced as a street legal car and the motors are not even crate motors. They are just a bunch of parts from the hi po catalogs of Ford and Chrysler. Let me have a set of fast burn heads, a 520 solid roller cam, a victor intake and a dominator carb plus 11.5 to 1 compression and rate my motor at 285 and let the games begin.
Greg. I was answering a comment that my combos were bogus. Or do you agree the cars I've run are bogus?
Please read the post before commenting.

JP 09-14-2010 02:54 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 209524)
Supercharged cars are easy to check just measure the pulleys and do a little math.
Even I can do that.

Also cam position, lift and duration changes boost level on all Turbo or Supercharged cars.
Art, there is way more variables that can be altered...in a forced air configuration... Boost is not the only secret to make usable power on the strip.

art leong 09-14-2010 07:13 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by JP (Post 210609)
Art, there is way more variables that can be altered...in a forced air configuration... Boost is not the only secret to make usable power on the strip.
Those same secrets can be used for N/A cars. If you port your heads they flow more air.
I was saying if you change the duration, cam timing, etc. you can change the boost number.

Toby Lang 09-14-2010 08:14 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by art leong (Post 210459)
Yeah I've always run "bogus combos" 1970 RT Challenger convertible (hemi), 1987 Dodge Shadow turbo I. (Real bogus they only made milliuons of them LOL) 1991 Dodge Spirit ES (another rare find LOL)
And last but not least the rareest of them all a Dodge Neon. Do you realize the only way you could get one was to buy it. You had to be one of those special people with real money."The inhumanity of it all"

LOL LOL

This is just a guess and I could be wrong, but I don't believe he was referring to the quantity produced.


-Toby

art leong 09-14-2010 08:52 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 210661)
This is just a guess and I could be wrong, but I don't believe he was referring to the quantity produced.


-Toby
He stated I run bogus combos. are these bogus combos?

RULER 09-14-2010 08:57 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
I will answer the question then, I would say your Hemi challenger would qualify as a race car but the rest you listed are about as much of a race car as a VW bug. Sure there are spec's in the guide, but most poeple wouldn't think of them as race car may be you do, this not the same situation that we have now with these new under rated cars.

art leong 09-14-2010 09:03 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by RULER (Post 210675)
I will answer the question then, I would say your Hemi challenger would qualify as a race car but the rest you listed are about as much of a race car as a VW bug. Sure there are spec's in the guide, but most poeple wouldn't think of them as race car may be you do, this not the same situation that we have now with these new under rated cars.
The Turbo dodges have been in the clasification guides since 1984. It's not built by GM?
My Neon is pounds per cubic inch. There is no HP factor.What's your point?
PS I have qualified number 1 at an NHRA event with every car I have raced.

Toby Lang 09-14-2010 11:21 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 210672)
He stated I run bogus combos. are these bogus combos?

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the way I took it was he meant bogus factor.

I don't know about your current ride, but any car that can go 2 seconds under the index I would say the factor is just a little off. :)


-Toby

Mark Yacavone 09-14-2010 11:28 PM
Re: Superb Article On Current State of Stock Eliminator
 
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Originally Posted by art leong (Post 210677)
The Turbo dodges have been in the clasification guides since 1984. It's not built by GM?
My Neon is pounds per cubic inch. There is no HP factor.What's your point?
PS I have qualified number 1 at an NHRA event with every car I have raced.

Artie, His point was to take a shot at FWD cars, and therefore at you, in total anonymity .

Nice


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