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C and W Racing 07-15-2010 07:50 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
What I want to know is why they don't enforce their own rules. I thought they said for safty reasons you have to have your visor down from water box on, but yet most people still leave the starting line with the visor up. To me that is a rule violation that should have been enforced as well. Thats whats wrong with our sport. NHRA picks and choses what rules to enforce and you never know when they might chose to do it. It needs to be the same at every race for every racer. It's not like they don't know who is or isn't practicing some safty violations. How many pro drivers are unbuckling themselves, even standing up in their dragsters while its still moving down the shutdown area after a win. I see it all the time. When I race and am coming off of the track it seems like someone at the end of the track looks at me to see if my equipment is still on. That may not be what they are doing but it appears that way to me. Point is, the pics show visors up, enforce the rule. But enforce the same rules for the pro's as well.
Thanks, Chuck

lazrcng 07-15-2010 11:01 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Leave the visor rule alone. I have been bitten in late rounds by a visor fogging up while staging. I have tried all the neat things sold to keep them from fogging up and none of them work.

As long as you let the button go and close the visor, your good!!!

.........and that is the only reason you take your hand off the wheel, not to grab a secondary brake system handle case you need to..............had to dig a little!

C and W Racing 07-15-2010 11:36 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Thats another reason I think NHRA doesn't care about safety. If peoples visors, windows, etc are fogging up, than we shouldn't be on the track at that time. Being able to see is pretty important.
Also, didn't you see how to remedy your visor fogging up? Cory Mac said to use the stuff they clean jewlery with. Of course if you race, how can you afford jewlery or the stuff needed to clean it? lol
All kidding aside, several years ago at the Gators, we ran second round of Super gas late at night and my windows were so fogged up I literally could not tell where I was on the track. My opinion, we should not have been on the track because it was very unsafe as far a visability is concerned. Problems are, go down the track and race, or go home. No regard for our safety
Thanks, Chuck

Chris Williams 07-15-2010 04:07 PM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
There are a million anti-fog sprays for visors and goggles (check a ski store), they work great and a bottle will last your racing career. No excuse for leaving the line with your visor up.

Ron Finney 07-15-2010 04:15 PM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
The visor will go down about the time they stick their head out of the cage....yeah, I know there is another post on this issue....but have you seen this weeks National Dragster?? Another color glossy of a S/C racer leaving the line with his head out of the cage...COME ON NHRA, COLOR GLOSSY'S EVERY WEEK???????

Bill Baer 07-16-2010 07:50 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Williams (Post 198539)
There are a million anti-fog sprays for visors and goggles (check a ski store), they work great and a bottle will last your racing career. No excuse for leaving the line with your visor up.

Chris I got to disagree with your last statement ,
Unless you wear eyeglasses and have had the experience of trying to stage with both your eyeglasses and visor fogged up:eek: you can't appreciate how much safer it is to leave with your visor up (or at least partially up)
It is scary as hell to let go of that button when your blind.

Chris Williams 07-16-2010 10:01 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Baer (Post 198651)
Chris I got to disagree with your last statement ,
Unless you wear eyeglasses and have had the experience of trying to stage with both your eyeglasses and visor fogged up:eek: you can't appreciate how much safer it is to leave with your visor up (or at least partially up)
It is scary as hell to let go of that button when your blind.

I do wear eyeglasses, and use the anti-fog spray on both. Once I went to that, I haven't had a problem. Leave the visor up to pre-stage, close it then, off we go :)

SSTRACER323 07-17-2010 05:32 PM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Just saw the run on TV and Justin just plain jumped.... Even Bob Frye said it. I did not see Stewart running around on the line. You see Justin's light flicker and then he left..... I dont get why he backed up and jumped out of the car then????? :confused:

Sg700x 07-17-2010 10:10 PM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
The only queastion i have is if everything was normal like a reg. final then why didnt the other guy leave the line. They had to tell him to go. So there was something in his mind that made him just sit there. Just my 2 cents.:cool:

SSTRACER323 07-18-2010 10:13 AM

Re: An argument you can not win!!!!
 
Hell I'd be confused too...... Reg had to see the lights flicker too and then Justin takes off and then backs up.... i am sure he is thinking WTF....


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