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Keith 944 03-30-2010 07:49 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
yea man, i'll be there, you comming? where you been, snowbound?

Jason Oldfield 03-31-2010 02:12 AM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
The only thing odd I noticed from the videos (besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line) is that on both of Bryan's runs and Tommy D's run the burnouts didn't produce hardly any smoke. Is that normal for your routines? if it is, that's fine, but I'm used to a little more smoke than the small wisp that was evident there. Is this possibly an indication of something different with the track?

It was cold as all get out. My understanding was that they didn't start running until a little later on Saturday and Sunday was because they were trying to build heat into the track. I can't say whether that is true or not though.

If nothing else, I enjoyed the commentary at the end of the video of Tommy D's run. I think it summed it up perfectly.

Tom DePascale 03-31-2010 06:21 AM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it. Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car. Keith I might go to MIR if weather is nice try IHRA cause NHRA has not been fun lately!

Bryan Gillespie 03-31-2010 06:38 AM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
(besides Bryan opening his door a second before he's about to leave the line)
I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will.
As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line )
See ya all @ MIR

SCohen 03-31-2010 11:34 AM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
What that video did not show was my car turning left with front tires in the air. 002 and trying to wreck my car. This was with out question the worst track I have ever been on. The NHRA did not seem to think there was a problem as usual, real smart lets use the virgin lanes at Charlotte for all the super classes. And as normal lets get the show done with no regard to there sportsman racers or there cars. Bracket racing is going to get a lot more populated by NHRA sportsman racers at the rate NHRA keeps ****ting on us.


Steve Cohen

Duane Dagostino 03-31-2010 12:13 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
Jim....I think the shine has dulled quite a bit on the "wally's"....a 3 day 3 seperate .90/top race should draw ..travel once race 3 times...I'm in...Duane

Tom DePascale 03-31-2010 12:21 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jim1761 (Post 178609)
I have been trying to talk Kevin Sway into this but I am wondering how many people out there would be interested? Have a .90 Gamblers weekend (Similiar to the Mitchell races)
3 races- fri,sat, sun run the .90 classes with Top Sportsman and Dragster....No dealing with NHRA or sticker money.... cash at the end of the day

I think if the timing of race was right it would draw a lot of cars! I'll be there would also help out in organizing it! Call me 732-239-6490 Tommy De

CBS jr 03-31-2010 12:54 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
From what i saw Tommy D over powered the track and was out of the groove. Plus having 20 psi in the rear tires not good. I think he was still thinking he was in NJ driving in the snow or he was dodging gators in florida.
just my .02 LOL

BKSG1198 03-31-2010 03:04 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
Just reading all these posts about how bad Phoenix, Gainesville, Atlanta and Charlotte were for the sportsman guys I'm glad I decided to just run MASGA 9.90 this year and skip all the National Events. Dad is running all the Division races and National Opens but, NO National Events this year. Plus with the S/C circuit forming back up it will be a fun time for sure. See you at Atco.

Jason Oldfield 03-31-2010 03:20 PM

Re: what is wrong with the national events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale (Post 178812)
Jason thats normal for me with my Mickey's they had nobody in water box & no water maybe water shortage (not in NJ thats for sure)

I would have been screwed with nobody to put me in the water. Plus, my small block doesn't make "mammoth power" like all your big blocks - I may not even have been able to do a burnout!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale (Post 178812)
the car left fine it was after it came off stop with my mammoth horsepower it went hard right I tried to recover but after 2nd move forget it.

Yes true. Bryan stated the same thing, so I am in full agreement. The burnouts most likely didn't have anything to do with it (not that I thought that they did, but I know a lot of guys that boil the hides, so your's and Bryan's burnouts are certainly on the short side compared to many).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom DePascale (Post 178812)
Nice to see you @ track Jason maybe next time with your car.

Good to see you too Tommy. I can only hope that the next time you do see me I am with car in tow. At least you've seen my car on the way to the races - most people on ClassRacer probably don't even believe I own one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie (Post 178814)
I open the door to let the smoke out of the car and close after both per stage bulbs are lite always have always will.

Not criticizing Bryan, just busting on you. I also open the door after every burnout to let the smoke out. I usually close the door immediately before I go into the prestage beam, but to each his own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie (Post 178814)
As for the short burnout , that is all that is needed to hook ( I like my vavle springs) as Tommy said the 60' was fine the problem was about 400' thru 800' out as seen in 2nd video of Camaro ( car moved to center line )

Pfft. Valve springs. Who needs stinking valve springs?!?! That's why I like my stinking small block - 8,000 rpm in the burnout box. Of course, I've also been known to leave half of my small block on the starting line, but that's another story.

As for your burnout and it affecting the run - see my comments above with regard to Tommy D's burnout. Regardless, sorry all you guys got screwed...


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