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Mark Yacavone 06-27-2009 07:48 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 127449)
Bobby DiDomenico said, "And count me in on the WORST red light deal. I've been told the fans wouldn't understand it."

Do you know that a lot of faster guys go ahead and leave when the slower car goes red? No need to sit there on the trans brake for nothing, you have already won. A lot of the second red lights would never happen if the rules were changed.

Ed , That may or may not be happening, but if it is ,that's one more advantage to the faster car . Doesn't sound like a good reason to NOT change the system.
...And ,could you do me a favor? Look on DRC for the last time someone left 1-2 seconds early, after the first car red-lighted.

Ed Fernandez 06-27-2009 07:49 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 127476)
Ed, Mark, I dont agree, Billy Meyer tried to do away with Sportsmen and it was a miserable failure. If S and SS was sold, people would buy it. Have you ever been to a NMCA race? The fans are crazy about it! I say lead or get out of the way! You know what you call someone who does everything the same and expect a different result? So if it fails one way, we try another.

Lynn,NHRA needs us for one thing.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ NMCA/NHRA oranges and apples.Most of their program is fast heads up racing.Go there and see how much it costs to be competitive.They make Comp look like Jr dragster.
The answer to your question: Obama??

Lynn A McCarty 06-27-2009 07:51 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 127478)
Lynn,NHRA needs us for one thing.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ NMCA/NHRA oranges and apples.Most of their program is fast heads up racing.Go there and see how much it costs to be competitive.They make Comp look like Jr dragster.
The answer to your question: Obama??

Yes or Foolish whichever you wanna pick. Why do you think I have been promoting heads up instead of boring 3 days of practice? However if the silent majority stays silent, nothing will happen.

Ed Fernandez 06-27-2009 09:19 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 127479)
Yes or Foolish whichever you wanna pick. Why do you think I have been promoting heads up instead of boring 3 days of practice? However if the silent majority stays silent, nothing will happen.

If I'm getting this right you're proposing going to running off indexes or national records.If so bye bye
S/SS.You will have the same 20 guys with deep pockets racing.Just like it was when the bracket format was introduced to raise participation levels.

Alan Roehrich 06-27-2009 09:42 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 127482)
If I'm getting this right you're proposing going to running off indexes or national records.If so bye bye
S/SS.You will have the same 20 guys with deep pockets racing.Just like it was when the bracket format was introduced to raise participation levels.

You're reading it wrong. Lynn is proposing class eliminations instead of time trials. Much like the SportsNational Open at Bowling Green. Instead of 2,3,4 or more time trials, you get one time trial, then they run class. It's an excellent idea really. Class gets contested, the spectators get to see some heads up no break out racing, and everyone still gets to run final eliminations.

bigshow2966 06-27-2009 09:51 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
Just asking, but what Mopar motors if any were rated higher with a hood scoop besides maybe the package cars? All the production motors had the same HP scoop or not.

Lynn A McCarty 06-28-2009 01:45 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 127482)
If I'm getting this right you're proposing going to running off indexes or national records.If so bye bye
S/SS.You will have the same 20 guys with deep pockets racing.Just like it was when the bracket format was introduced to raise participation levels.

No silly, try to keep up ;):). I propose we run heads up instead of 2-3 days of boring practice. Use a 5 cent CPU (pencil) if NHRA wants not to help, we organize it on our own. Just show up to practice with your index on the front windshield. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday will stay the same for all those 3 fans who want to watch such a thing.

Lynn

Lynn A McCarty 06-28-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by bigshow2966 (Post 127485)
Just asking, but what Mopar motors if any were rated higher with a hood scoop besides maybe the package cars? All the production motors had the same HP scoop or not.

Good point bigshow, our Max Wedge car has the same HP with or without the hood scoop as far as we can tell. Ron really cant afford a $5k alum hood, so no hood scoop for him either. No one can tell me that hood clearance and hoods scoops arent an issue. We had to make Ron''s plenum very small due to the lack of hood clearance. We also had to make the intake runner about an inch too short.

What I am saying is that if the guys run the Max Wedge or the 440 magnum in the GT car they should be able to incorporate the hood scoop how the engine came. Shaker or otherwise.

John Kelley 06-28-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
NHRA should just lower the HP Factor for the "ram air" in bodies without a SCOOP.....problem solved.\
And a LOT less hassle on legality of the proper scoop..........geesh

Ed Fernandez 06-28-2009 06:17 PM

Re: Common Sense GT car rules revision!
 
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Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 127530)
No silly, try to keep up ;):). I propose we run heads up instead of 2-3 days of boring practice. Use a 5 cent CPU (pencil) if NHRA wants not to help, we organize it on our own. Just show up to practice with your index on the front windshield. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday will stay the same for all those 3 fans who want to watch such a thing.

Lynn

I would like to see a format like that.But would NHRA go for it?I think you would hear"Sounds good,but it would take too long due to the time lost with the handicap starts".Would there be payouts for the class winners or just the satisfaction of winning class?How about the dreaded AHFS?


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