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GTO/GN 04-30-2009 07:05 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 118015)
I couldn't agree with you more bud, but I can't blame the products themselves, as much as I blame our government for rolling out the red carpet for them....by doing things such as lifting the tariffs that once were charged to all imported products (even when there was proven evidence that free trade went one way in Japan, by a Washington envoy to Japan..circa 1991 Associated Press), or letting them build manufacturing plants here in our country so as to free themselves from the tariffs by calling their products American (since they were built here)? Yeah right, built with parts that were imported from their true country of origin---the LAND OF THE RISING YEN!!! Furthermore, I would blame those millions of people who seem to feel that no-longer can their "Fellow American's" design, engineer, and build quality cars and trucks for our everyday usage---imagine telling your sons and daughters that because they are Americans, they can't produce a usable product as good/better than the Asian & European countries can...that's essentially what those of them who patronized (then/now) those companies instead of ours have done!!! I personally challenged a Washington spokesperson back in the early '90's who dared to come out to one of my communities schools to have us parents steer our children to service oriented jobs, because the manufacturing base was going overseas!!! WHAT A COPOUT!!!
I'll BE DAMNED IF I WAS GOING TO TELL MY CHILDREN THAT CRAP!!!

I'll tell you this, if I would've won a decent part of that mega-million lottery from last year, I sure would've tried to revitalize the "Timex" watch/clock company, and/or our former American tv makers "Zenith", "Magnavox", or "RCA"...remember them???

THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE DIDN'T BECOME SUCH BECAUSE OF "MADE IN JAPAN", OR ANYWHERE ELSE, "AMERICA EXISTS BECAUSE OF MADE IN THE USA", AND AMERICAN PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME!!!!

Now you all know another reason I feel the way I do about imports...that's my take, what's yours???

Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

Jeff Teuton 04-30-2009 07:24 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Don, there is an old Country & Western song "What Part of No Don't You Understand" which I will send you a copy.

bill dedman 04-30-2009 07:36 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Now can I build that Fiat 850 GT/A car with the SRT8 Hemi I've been daydreaming about ever since I hear that Mopar was gonna merge with Fiat???

GarysZ24 04-30-2009 07:41 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO/GN (Post 118169)
Well said... agree 100%...
And to Don Kennedy, This is just how I feel, and no one has to like it or agree with me its just how I feel.. Right or wrong its how I feel..
Yes I know the new GTO was not built here... But the profits from the sales of a Pontiac would end up with a American Company... Supporting American family's, American Jobs... Bottom line ends up in USA...
21,000 jobs at the factory level being cut, due to the closing of Pontiac. Not to mention all the suppliers that are going to have to lay off workers. Even tire manufactures will be cutting back on workers... no need for that many tires next year no Pontiacs to put them on...

Amen Brother!!!

Besides, I work for one of GM's suppliers, so I understand that all too well....

Don Kennedy 04-30-2009 07:54 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Jeff: Believe me I get it for sure big time “ BUT” but I am not sure others see what I see ,hey I could be wrong but most likely not(in my opinion of course LOL at me )

If the American Car Companies are no longer are involved in Racing Then What???

Who will support Super Stock or even Pro Stock racing ??

Heck Pontiac is No longer around so what happens to The Pontiac Pro Stock Cars?

If Chevy is no longer involved in Racing then what ??

If Mopar is no longer involved in Drag Racing then what ???

Does anyone else have a plan to keep Super Stock racing going?

Or does everyone think The American Car Companies will still be involved?

I think they will drop the Performance end of all of the American Car Companies big time oh wait Pontiac is toast, Chevy has no ,zero plan to even be concerned about performance so far only a overweight Camaro and now Chrysler is owned by a foreign car company ???

Now Ford is on top of the performance plan which is good for racing .

So all of us don’t like the idea of just using another body style to use in Super Stock , this is not a good thing in my opinion cause soon all our cars will be not even sold to the public in any way, even the names will be gone so open up the options of at least using a body that is being sold on Monday after we raced it on Sunday as a options for racers to do

M Brand 505B 04-30-2009 09:51 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Its time for superstock/ GT to evolve. People who are racing these WRX's, SRT 4's, and EVO's have money and spend it. Change the rules for GT and allow 4 and 6 cylinder turbo engines to run. Sooner or later this will happen so why not allow it now? Another problem is these import drivers probably know very little if any at all about stock or super stock. Talk to these people at local bracket races and try to get them interested and involved. They'd be a great addition to the stock/superstock classes. :)

Steve Williams 04-30-2009 10:25 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Don,

You are not all there and your posts in this thread show that. Non USA cars in Stock and Super Stock. Give me a break. Do you know anything about these cars? Do you know anybody that does that can tech them? You are absolutely lost. Just my opinion-but for a long time Pontiac racer to say what you said you have lost your mind. I thought better of you than that. I don't anticipate posting on this thread any further as this thread takes the cake for talking out your rear end.

Steve

A long time fan of you and your efforts. Not anymore....

SS Engine Guy 04-30-2009 11:37 PM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
F----Fixed
I-----It
A---Again
T----Today

If it could have been done without many hardworking people losing their jobs, I would have soon they would have folded than to have another foreign country buying another chunk of America.

Jeff Lee 05-01-2009 12:15 AM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Twin turbo Supra :D

Nissan 370R :D

Subaru WR4

There's moe. Built to race, they wouldn't go any faster with a cross-over engine. Probably slow 'em down.

Dick Butler 05-01-2009 05:30 AM

Re: A new idea for the Super Stock GT Class
 
Don,
The post shows you are still a Drag Racer at Heart and you would like to see it live on. Problem is the life or death of S and SS racing will be based on the Racer population and their life expectancy. With the issues facing the Manufacturers, the economy and lets not forget the total arrogance of NHRA and its lack of touch the racing as you and I love it is about gone. Unfortunately your idea favors more of NHRAs dilution of competition,not strengthening it. More combos, less monitoring of tech, more out of game combos with bogus capability. More dis satisfaction with rules and action by NHRA.
NEXT idea?


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