CLASS RACER FORUM - "WHAT IF" part 4

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X-Tech-Man & Alex, This is got to happen ! As i hope that i live long enough to play along as i did at the class Nationals You guys are doing just GREAT!!!!!!!!! John Lang

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[QUOTE=Jack McCarthy;108469]what rules do we go to in case of mulitple rules ?
like pistons, slick size etc ?

thats the only big issue i see

Hummmm, you guys tell me what you want. I personally always thought the NHRA piston rule was BS. I like IHRA' s or the way the old stockers from the late '60's and early 70's had thier piston rule. It wasnt any more expensive to buy these pistons and a hell of lot eaiser to police. Id say use 9"inch tires on the stockers but 10 inch tires last longer but are slower and dont fit some wheel wells as easily. As far as Im concerened its open for discussion. Maybe Alex will say different?? Its going to be YOUR association. I guess this is a good time to state your likes and dislikes about both NHRA and IHRA rules. At first the rules should be close to both associations but the lack of inspections in IHRA and the lack of interest from NHRA is something that needs to be dealt with.

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Unk:

Call me at 501-767-4777.

I'm not sure how to use the PM deal.

S.E.

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 108211)

First thing is I want to thank Kenny Mile and the Class racer Forum for giving Alex Denysenko and my self the oppertunity to use this forum to start this project. The association does not yet have its permanet name but as soon as its decided on we will have a web site up within approx. 2 to 3 days and we will start to post info under the new part if this forum for Racing associations. We have a few title sponsors on line already and we will make this a real member association and anouncements on these sponsors at a later post.. We are planning to have Super Stock, Stock, A modified/comp. style eliminator similar to the old modified classes if possable, a quick 32 Super Stock and a quick 32 Stock with a CIC as NHRA,s comp. Also included is TOP Stock, and Jr. Stock heads up as per current rules. Part of the show will include the NSS cars also known as Nostalgia Super Stock from the NMCA races. There will be NO .90 classes so to allow time for qualifying and time trials without sitting at your trailers all day. If you run Top Stock and Jr. Stock you will be allowed to run in the regular stock eliminator as these cars will have thier own index without having to change wt. or the minor changes allowed fot these heads up catagories as long as the extra enty fee is paid. We are looking at a well known track (We hope.....Large and 1st class) at the moment but rest assured we will be on the west coast, South, North, and mid West for 2011 with a 4 to 6 race series. Thats about all I have right now and will let you know more as things come together. Right now we are possably leaning toward calling the association the "UNITED CLASS RACERS ASSOCIATION" that Myron Piatek suggested but that is not set in stone yet. Any comments good or bad will be taken under discussion. Remember this is all just coming together and all is not set in stone yet. By the way..... some TV rights are being looked at also so at last the sportsman racer will recieve some exposure that they deserve.. Terry Bell

There is a ground swell of people that want to bring back the old "junior stock" from the '70's. The days of high winding small blocks and tri-five chevy's but of course there is no place to race these cars,

Perhaps this would give them an opportunity.

Jim

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If I had my own series and I wanted something that would do well in a "Pinks" style TV show, I would use "regular" NHRA / IHRA class guides and combine 3 concurrent classes on a similar weight break like Top Stock. Sticks & auto's heads up racing just like you would find in the streets.
So all the ABC cars would compete heads up, the DEF cars, GHI cars, etc. I think it would be great racing, great spectator appeal and great on camera. Applies to Stock & Superstock. No Top Stock rules would apply to the regular classes.
Weight breaks might be an issue on 1/2# vs. 1# but if you can't get around an issue like that don't race.

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Originally Posted by treessavoy (Post 108528)

IHRA has allowed the older cars for years. The pure stock class is just like the old Jr. stockers and yes we plan on having a place for them in the class racers association but be prepared for tear down inspections if you run one of them.

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i like the old pure stock no headers no slicks etc

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Keep the tire rule at 9" ! Use the NHRA & IHRA classes alike for stk and ss, my suggestion! John....

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Originally Posted by John Lang (Post 108560)

Keep the tire rule at 9" ! Use the NHRA & IHRA classes alike for stk and ss, my suggestion! John....

The fly in the ointment here. Two points, IHRA allows (1) 10.5 tires and (2), they also allow the springs to be moved inboard for tire clearence. NHRA doesn't allow this. My contention, why not allow a maximum of a 10.5 tire, those that have NHRA legal cars, if they can fit them under the fenderwells, can run them.

The view I'm taking, you're cross polinating here, so some cars have already been built under one rule structure. Some might take it that using the IHRA rules makes it more liberal. The 9 inch tire really won't bother me, that's been my plan from the beginning. As I've stated, I'm building a crate motor car. I do want to keep it within the confines of NHRA rules, in case I decide one day to build a 301 Pontiac or 403 Oldsmobile motor.

To me that's another issue, what about those of us that populate these classes, crate motor and GT. Since I can't run NHRA events with this car as a crate motor or GT stocker. My option to use the rules that are allowed, give me a little more leeway than the guy running a car that competes in NHRA. If I chose to take advantage of them.

Robert Swartz

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Originally Posted by John Lang (Post 108560)

Keep the tire rule at 9" ! Use the NHRA & IHRA classes alike for stk and ss, my suggestion! John....

I couldn't agree more. If you want fat tires, narrowed rearends and moved in frame rails theres Super stock. It ain't stock. Course you could still run stocker tires but it could be a handfull with the narrow track. Sort of like driving with one of those inflateaspares on.