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art leong 02-23-2009 05:50 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 107365)
Can dry ice pellets be dumped into a radiator? At Indy, I saw something a bit odd. During Stock class eliminations, I saw a racer dump what appeared to be ice into his radiator, but then saw him "fishing" out pieces of plastic that were floating around in the tank, almost like "pellets" that may have been packed in plastic.

Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.

Tom Moock 02-23-2009 06:34 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Art Leong, What happens when you put dry ice in the fuel cell?

larry dowty 02-23-2009 07:08 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
I would'nt doubt that art has tried that but you better make sure that the vent is working really good

Ed Fernandez 02-23-2009 07:24 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 107369)
Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.

Artie;
Stop giving away all the good stuff for free.Start charging for the info.

Ed

Larry Hill 02-23-2009 07:49 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Jimmy, its always great to see you you at the races, hope to see you before Indy.
I know what I saw!

Larry

Freddie 02-24-2009 08:33 AM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
This practice of cold water and ice has been going on for many years, I can remember first starting out in the early 80's with a friend of mine at E-Town. He did the same prior to his Record runs, or class elim. back then they ment someting. Today a class win in some classes is still a great achievment, but others only have to race themselves, where is the fun in that.

I can understand being DQ'd for this, realisticly you should be DQ'd for dropping anything on the racing surface, water, fuel, headers, whatever... I have seen alot of cars that somehow get past tech and on thier first run of the day drop **** out of the car. Water from ice has got to be the easiest thing to cleanup...

Ed Wright 02-24-2009 11:47 AM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 107369)
Dry ice boils when immersed in water. Great effects for a band, not so good for a race car.
Years ago we ran alcohol in the cool can and added dry ice.


I did that back in the late '60s, early '70s. Found out I had moisture in my fuel once when the fuel in the cool can line line froze on the way to the staging lanes. Kinda embarasing. Sure made for some cold fuel.

Todd Hoven 02-24-2009 03:04 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
There is most likely a safety angle to this. If you don't keep it in check people could get hurt. Last year running Jr stock at Atco, I had some water get under my rear tires and about the 330' mark my car made a quick right turn and got on 2 wheels. No body was hurt and nothing was damaged, ( Except my shorts :) ) but water came out of my cool can because ice kept a part of the lid from sealing. The same thing could happen from a bag of ice, or water. I bet that never happens again to that guy that got dq'ed. Just my 2 cents..

Mike Carr 02-24-2009 04:24 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Maybe I missed it at the time of the ruling, in regards to prohibiting the computer keyboard spray, but was there a reason given for it being outlawed? I would think one would want to use it, if only for the fact that it could get stray water droplets/ice cubes out of hard to reach places, bolt holes, etc?

Ed Fernandez 02-24-2009 04:54 PM

Re: DQ for "icing"?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 107480)
Maybe I missed it at the time of the ruling, in regards to prohibiting the computer keyboard spray, but was there a reason given for it being outlawed? I would think one would want to use it, if only for the fact that it could get stray water droplets/ice cubes out of hard to reach places, bolt holes, etc?

Mikey, it has CFCs that are not too environmentally friendly.The stuff really cools things down and if you touch the manifold if someone got a little nuts(nah,drag racers wouldn't do something stupid like that)you would get the same result as touching dry ice.

Ed

Instead of removing the water it would probably freeze it.Going down the track it could return back to liquid and cause problems down track.I think NHRA is correct in their ruling to ban the spray and to also ban dry ice.I forgot the price but someone i know who used dry ice said the price was high and it's not available everywhere.


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