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farmco r/sa 04-13-2020 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy Wells (Post 612188)
Maybe we should just all Coward down in our basements until the economy is destroyed and the dollar is worthless, if all the brave men and women that fought in world war II did that we would be speaking german, these men signed up knowing there was a good chance they may not make it home. The workers out there keeping the lights on are heros, I work in oil patch and I am still working if I get it chances are I wilk be ok and I am willing to take that chance. We need herd immunity, that's only way to beat this.

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I believe on Friday April 3rd surgeon general Jerome Adams said last week would be " this generations pearl harbor moment" . God bless the greartest generation. I was not around for pearl harbor but hard to imagine. Thankfully it did not seem nearly as horrific as that was. In Denver we have been preparing and quarantining somewhat for almost a month with most of the control on businesses forced to close.Our governer not nearly as heavy handed as some it seems. Oklahoma has almost no restrictions from what I understand. In Colorado liquor stores, pot shops, grocery stores, most parks still open. At this moment blessed to have under 300 deaths in the state. Expected much worse now. What it very hard to estimate is the economic destruction to businesses, families, , lives from that will also be fatalties.? Really tough debate..

Mike Pearson 04-14-2020 07:40 AM

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we keep hearing that the government is looking to start to open things back up. Yesterday our county government put the whole county on nightly curfew. Now we re not allowed to be out and about between 9 pm and 5 am 7 days a week unless it is for essential movement. so It just keeps escallating

Bruce Noland 04-14-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612183)
She is ELECTED by the voters in her DISTRICT to represent her DISTRICT in Congress. If her DISTRICT is failing then it is because she is failing as a representative.

You obviously know very little about Congressional Legislators.

Billy just because you want something to be true does not mean it is true. The district that Pelosi represents, like all US districts, is governed by state and local officials. Her district does have a lot of challenges right now but she cannot fly in from Washington and take control of the district that she "represents ." That's not how it works, but she can work with the state and local officials to ease the problems in her district. Which she is doing while having to contend with a rogue administration.

Billy Nees 04-14-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612230)
Billy just because you want something to be true does not mean it is true. The district that Pelosi represents, like all US districts, is governed by state and local officials. Her district does have a lot of challenges right now but she cannot fly in from Washington and take control of the district that she "represents ." That's not how it works, but she can work with the state and local officials to ease the problems in her district. Which she is doing while having to contend with a rogue administration.

Bull! She's been off on her own agenda for years. She is a perfect example of why there should be term limits. She's also a perfect example of why the long-termers and beltway elite hate Trump. The new guy came along and "disrupted" their "apple cart".

Billy Nees 04-14-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612230)
Billy just because you want something to be true does not mean it is true.

Bruce, just one question, Was Pelosi elected by the voters in her District to look after their best interests?

Bruce Noland 04-14-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612235)
Bruce, just one question, Was Pelosi elected by the voters in her District to look after their best interests?

No Billy, not this time. You aren't going to blow of the facts. Pelosi does not govern her district. That's for state and local officials. And the new guy you're talking about is nothing more than deranged New York City liberal who has a lot of you fooled.

Billy Nees 04-14-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 611935)
The Dictator that you support has told over 15,000 lies since he has been office. Now refute that with facts.

Let's talk about YOUR truths and facts. Ya see, the way this is supposed to work is YOU make accusations and then YOU back YOUR accusations up with facts, not hearsay.
It's not up to me to prove or dis-prove YOUR B.S.. I'm still waiting for documented proof of YOUR accusations.

You didn't answer my previous question,"was Pelosi elected by the voters in her District to look after their best interests"?
Here, maybe I can help you. When was the last time that you saw coverage of Pelosi wandering down a tent filled street covered with needles and sh#t?
When was the last time you saw coverage of Pelosi at a fund raiser being put on by her intellectual friends?

Mark Yacavone 04-14-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612230)
That's not how it works, but she can work with the state and local officials to ease the problems in her district. Which she is doing while having to contend with a rogue administration.

Revisionist history.
Her only mission in life seems to be to remove the duly elected president.
Feb 6th..DT had already invoked the travel ban (racist, said Creepy Sleepy Joe)
The Pelosi led house was trying to keep the hearings open with more witnesses in the Senate phase.
BN, you, yourself wanted to warn us about the upcoming epidemic.
Pelosi was still consumed with impeachment and Russia /Ukraine garbage!

Tom Moock 04-14-2020 12:49 PM

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Bruce, You didn`t answer my Question, Did you start looking for your electric race car

farmco r/sa 04-14-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 612219)
we keep hearing that the government is looking to start to open things back up. Yesterday our county government put the whole county on nightly curfew. Now we re not allowed to be out and about between 9 pm and 5 am 7 days a week unless it is for essential movement. so It just keeps escallating


There is a beutiful small ski town very expensive called Telluride and they imposed a 14 day quatantine to all residences not to leave there house for anything.. Town has 7 confirmed cases. No traffic in or out of town.


A county called clear creek, I-70 runs right through it. Cool town Idaho springs in the middle of it. They have a few cases. Going to or did close county roads to visitors. Can't stop I-70 obviously.


We were in a small gambling town 2 weekends ago. Blackhawk/ Central City. All casinos closed. Like a ghost town. Stopped and picked up a couple items at an open convenience store. Town cop really gave us the stink eye. Sure he knew we were out of towners.

Tom Broome 04-14-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 611962)
If Trump had a fair Trial with Witnesses.
In a normal Democracy He would have been Indicted and thrown in Jail..
Whole lot of lies would have been saved..
We would not be facing a Depression
Would not be in Quarantine.
President Nancy Pelosi would be running the country competently!
Stock Market would be thriving !

Btw where are Trumps Tax Returns?
Btw have you been buying Jim Bakers Snake Oil for CV19?

D

Talk about issues with the truth.

Again, Dan. As soon as it is again available......seek professional help.


On second thought......This level of derangement qualifies as an emergency. SEEK HELP NOW.

Please take care of yourself Dan.

jmcarter 04-14-2020 03:45 PM

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Her “Trump” pens she used to sign the articles of impeachment were a reprehensible act. And with that I’m outa this thread, it’s gonna get nuked by Ken anyway and I personally think we don’t need a Facebook wannabe for class racers.

SSGT Mustang 04-14-2020 03:52 PM

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Good Lord, some of the responses are almost too painful to read.

Here's a link the United States Constitution. https://www.archives.gov/founding-do...ion-transcript

Read and reread the whole thing and then read it again. Pay attention to Article I.

Elected members of the House of Representatives are bound by oath to uphold the constitution. As if they do.

They are supposed to represent their districts. The districts are supposed comply with the Constitution and Federal Law. You know, like not ****ting in the streets, shooting up on the street corner, opening marijuana dispensaries, disregarding immigration law, etc.

Little things like that.

I can't help but notice how "House of Representatives" can be shortened to HORs and Pelosi is their Madam Speaker. To add more irony, the House introduces measures to create the very Federal Laws their districts ignore.

Bruce Noland 04-14-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612240)
Let's talk about YOUR truths and facts. Ya see, the way this is supposed to work is YOU make accusations and then YOU back YOUR accusations up with facts, not hearsay.
It's not up to me to prove or dis-prove YOUR B.S.. I'm still waiting for documented proof of YOUR accusations.

You didn't answer my previous question,"was Pelosi elected by the voters in her District to look after their best interests"?
Here, maybe I can help you. When was the last time that you saw coverage of Pelosi wandering down a tent filled street covered with needles and sh#t?
When was the last time you saw coverage of Pelosi at a fund raiser being put on by her intellectual friends?

Billy, it's up to you to disprove my posts. I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else. But I will tell you the acorn you think you've found is hollow. Pelosi was elected to represent her district in Congress so you can play with that acorn all you want.

Mark, what revisionist history are you talking about? Trump is the one who failed to warn the US public and take action to protect us against the Coronavirus. He said it would go away by April - no big deal. And the impeachment deal was over in January and throttled by the AG, I might add. Lets go back to the old lie that Trump was distracted by the impeachment - that must have been in between all of his golfing trips and campaign rallies. You know the man loves his golf and adulation. Even though he has spent hundreds of millions of our damn dollars playing golf, but that's just fine with you. In fact the only thing that any of you Trumpers have in common with him is his petty politics. Do you guys think pounding on Pelosi will make all of Trumps foibles go away? Like Trump University which was a fraud, oh and what about his foundation which was found to be ripping off a children's cancer charity, oh and whores all over place. Just the kinda guy for you.

Bruce Noland 04-14-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 612264)
Her “Trump” pens she used to sign the articles of impeachment were a reprehensible act. And with that I’m outa this thread, it’s gonna get nuked by Ken anyway and I personally think we don’t need a Facebook wannabe for class racers.

She did not use "Trump" pens. She used her own office pens and gave several away after signing the articles.

Randy Wells 04-14-2020 04:44 PM

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[QUOTE=Bruce Noland;612269]Billy, it's up to you to disprove my posts. I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else. But I will tell you the acorn you think you've found is hollow. Pelosi was elected to represent her district in Congress so you can play with that acorn all you want.

Mark, what revisionist history are you talking about? Trump is the one who failed to warn the US public and take action to protect us against the Coronavirus. He said it would go away by April - no big deal. And the impeachment deal was over in January and throttled by the AG, I might add. Lets go back to the old lie that Trump was distracted by the impeachment - that must have been in between all of his golfing trips and campaign rallies. You know the man loves his golf and adulation. Even though he has spent hundreds of millions of our damn dollars playing golf, but that's just fine with you. In fact the only thing that any of you Trumpers have in common with him is his petty politics. Do you guys think pounding on Pelosi will make all of Trumps foibles go away? Like Trump University which was a fraud, oh and what about his foundation which was found to be ripping off a children's cancer charity, oh and whores all over place. Just the kinda guy for you.[/QUOT

Bruce, if you were a sane person I would respond, but arguing with a nut is like beating you head against the wall. I am with Jim, ken should shut this thread down, and you Bruce should get you a Prius might make you feel good.

Billy Nees 04-14-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612269)
Billy, it's up to you to disprove my posts. I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else.

Sorry Bruce, in the real world, that's not the way it works. You keep talking though. I'm sure that it's good for Ken's numbers. I'm done.

Grey Ghost 04-14-2020 04:59 PM

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The hysteria was started with an 2.2 million death (not the number infected) dead from covid19 computer model prediction for the U.S. That number is at this time simular to world wide reported total cases.

The government and media are basing all their doom and gloom on OBVIOUSLY flawed information and they're still sticking with the same "experts" who gave us the bogus predictions.

ALL the "experts" happen to be behind the scenes long time establishment insiders who tell us don't worry the governments going to save you!

I wonder if the solar panels Coumo bought instead of requested ventilators several years ago are required to power all the hospitals in his jurisdiction?

Bruce Noland 04-14-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612275)
Sorry Bruce, in the real world, that's not the way it works. You keep talking though. I'm sure that it's good for Ken's numbers. I'm done.

Oh but Billy that is the way it works in the real world. You don't like what I say - prove that I'm wrong. I think we've discussed the fact that your world and the real world are not quite the same.

Mark Yacavone 04-14-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612269)
Billy, it's up to you to disprove my posts. I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else. But I will tell you the acorn you think you've found is hollow. Pelosi was elected to represent her district in Congress so you can play with that acorn all you want.

Mark, what revisionist history are you talking about? Trump is the one who failed to warn the US public and take action to protect us against the Coronavirus. He said it would go away by April - no big deal. And the impeachment deal was over in January and throttled by the AG, I might add. Lets go back to the old lie that Trump was distracted by the impeachment - that must have been in between all of his golfing trips and campaign rallies. You know the man loves his golf and adulation. Even though he has spent hundreds of millions of our damn dollars playing golf, but that's just fine with you. In fact the only thing that any of you Trumpers have in common with him is his petty politics. Do you guys think pounding on Pelosi will make all of Trumps foibles go away? Like Trump University which was a fraud, oh and what about his foundation which was found to be ripping off a children's cancer charity, oh and whores all over place. Just the kinda guy for you.

Golfing Presidents 101...
Number 1,
...Nah , it's happy hour .You're not worth missing that..Maybe later...Maybe not

Jeff Stout 04-14-2020 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612269)
Billy, it's up to you to disprove my posts. I have nothing to prove to you or anybody else. But I will tell you the acorn you think you've found is hollow. Pelosi was elected to represent her district in Congress so you can play with that acorn all you want.

Mark, what revisionist history are you talking about? Trump is the one who failed to warn the US public and take action to protect us against the Coronavirus. He said it would go away by April - no big deal. And the impeachment deal was over in January and throttled by the AG, I might add. Lets go back to the old lie that Trump was distracted by the impeachment - that must have been in between all of his golfing trips and campaign rallies. You know the man loves his golf and adulation. Even though he has spent hundreds of millions of our damn dollars playing golf, but that's just fine with you. In fact the only thing that any of you Trumpers have in common with him is his petty politics. Do you guys think pounding on Pelosi will make all of Trumps foibles go away? Like Trump University which was a fraud, oh and what about his foundation which was found to be ripping off a children's cancer charity, oh and whores all over place. Just the kinda guy for you.

Never mind. It was to un-professional.

farmco r/sa 04-16-2020 02:11 PM

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Until this pandemic I really did not realize last world pandemic was 2009/2010 H1N1 swine flu.

Don Sofranko 04-17-2020 01:36 PM

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You guys owe it to yourselves to watch this, and look for hope from the Fauci types who understand science. Its about the 1918 flu and how it went away. It may be very near what we are seeing here?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...lms/influenza/

I see this happening after a fair amount of research

1- when the stay at home ends, we are going to be wearing masks for several years in public. Ever notice how asians are always wearing masks? (even before this?)

2- this may take 1-2 years to go away completely, I hope masks aren't for life.

3- I would rather be safe and listen to science and history, until we know what this thing is for sure. Its going to be very hard to stay apart in public, and this is going to be a dicey year.

4- I wish people and countries that dined on bats, would knock it off, and come under FDA type standards.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Sofranko (Post 612505)
You guys owe it to yourselves to watch this, and look for hope from the Fauchi types who understand science. Its about the 1918 flu and how it went away. It may be very near what we are seeing here?

We have been hearing a lot about the history of this here in Philadelphia. That's because Philadelphia did not cancel a planned parade and as a result, was one of the hardest hit cities in 1918.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612235)
Bruce, just one question, Was Pelosi elected by the voters in her District to look after their best interests?

House members are elected to represent their districts in the federal government. The assist their constituents only in federal matters and do not get involved in state and local affairs.

jwsamuel 04-17-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 612280)
The hysteria was started with an 2.2 million death (not the number infected) dead from covid19 computer model prediction for the U.S. That number is at this time simular to world wide reported total cases.

That projection was if nothing was done to try to prevent the spread.

Eddies66 04-17-2020 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Sofranko (Post 612505)
You guys owe it to yourselves to watch this, and look for hope from the Fauchi types who understand science. Its about the 1918 flu and how it went away. It may be very near what we are seeing here?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexp...lms/influenza/

I see this happening after a fair amount of research

1- when the stay at home ends, we are going to be wearing masks for several years in public. Ever notice how asians are always wearing masks? (even before this?)

2- this may take 1-2 years to go away completely, I hope masks aren't for life.

3- I would rather be safe and listen to science and history, until we know what this thing is for sure. Its going to be very hard to stay apart in public, and this is going to be a dicey year.

4- I wish people and countries that dined on bats, would knock it off, and come under FDA type standards.


Having lived in Japan for 3 years, people wear masks when they are sick. Science is the key to solving this problem not politics. Bats can't be all bad, said Ozzy Osborne.

jmcarter 04-17-2020 02:53 PM

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Yep, I’m sure Ozzy Osborne is a good lead to follow...

jmcarter 04-17-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 612273)
She did not use "Trump" pens. She used her own office pens and gave several away after signing the articles.

Note the quotation marks, yes her signing of the articles was a real high point for the republic. Great cause for celebration that. Another such celebration was held when Cuomo signed into law permitting full term abortion. Decency sure isn’t what it use to be, on either side of the political spectrum for that matter.

Grey Ghost 04-18-2020 09:00 AM

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You could argue that shuttering businesses and comfining all to their homes is actually prolonging and intensifying this mess.

Covid19 like EVERY other infectious disease we've dealt with over the centuries is going to run it's course whether we do anything or not. PRECAUTIONS ARE NECESSARY as a matter of common sense. Protecting those of higher risk is essential but apparently lacking when it comes to the vulnerable.

Failure/scientifically unable to protect elderly care facilities is appalling. The first outbreak in Washington state devastated a care facility. Through out the country the elderly facilities are still being devastated and we're told the measures taken are working.

Flattening the "curve" seems to be more of nature taking it's course than "science experts" having a meaningful impact. Nature ALWAYS wins.

Billy Nees 04-18-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 612599)
Nature ALWAYS wins.

And Mother Nature will KEEP trying until she gets it right. At some point in time, all of these antibiotics that we keep coming up with are going to weaken our immune systems to the point that not even the strong will survive.

farmco r/sa 04-18-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grey Ghost (Post 612599)
You could argue that shuttering businesses and comfining all to their homes is actually prolonging and intensifying this mess.

Covid19 like EVERY other infectious disease we've dealt with over the centuries is going to run it's course whether we do anything or not. PRECAUTIONS ARE NECESSARY as a matter of common sense. Protecting those of higher risk is essential but apparently lacking when it comes to the vulnerable.

Failure/scientifically unable to protect elderly care facilities is appalling. The first outbreak in Washington state devastated a care facility. Through out the country the elderly facilities are still being devastated and we're told the measures taken are working.

Flattening the "curve" seems to be more of nature taking it's course than "science experts" having a meaningful impact. Nature ALWAYS wins.


Last night in the press briefing our Governor from Colorado who asked the Governor from Washington who is a friend of his from there days in congress what did you learn from your experiences ? He said the senior facilities definitely most venerable. One of there facilities had very high casualties at the start of the out break.

SStockDart 04-19-2020 12:27 AM

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Per the topic in the title....of course it is an over reaction, unless you caught coronavirus or are in an unfortunate category that is more receptive to coronavirus.
Had to edit this...lol. this is kind of like digging a fox hole. Dig it deep enough, you survive. Or like the 3 little pigs, do it right and you survive.
So, those that cloister themselves at home, have prepared themselves at home, will survive.
Those that choose to defy directives, usually those that defy law anyway. Drug dealers and prostitutes, should continue to be felons and send TO THE PEN.

GTX JOHN 04-19-2020 03:20 AM

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Deaths from Covid 19 are INFLATED.

If you have a Heart Attack and die....if you are
positive for virus they will call it Covid 19 Death.

Same for a 100 other cases of death unrelated
to being Covid positive....
Hospitals ARE required to call it Covid 19 Death!!

Half this country may well be Covid 19 Positive or
already survived it = If it kills you it is generally because you are very seriously
sick already. One foot in the Grave and one on a Banana Peal!

I am cautious in my movements BUT not terribly concerned.

I guess many folks feel it is fine to suspend our Constitution
and our Bill of Right at the sign of trouble...I DO NOT AGREE!

I would strongly recommend that you bring a lot of backup when you
come to take me for to the PEN for going to see my Grand Kids down the
street.

After 200 plus successful solo Felony Fugitive Arrests...
My Close Combat skills are pretty sound and I am always well prepared =
Unlike most of my family when they were taken to the PEN in WWII Germany.
Do me just one small favor = You yourself come thru my door first!

BTW: I am not a Prostitute.....I can't give it away on 2nd Avenue.
........... I am not a Drug Dealer.....Old Age is plenty confusing enough by itself.

........... I am a Patriot and love this Country and the Freedom our brilliant founding
fathers provided for us thru our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Mark Yacavone 04-19-2020 06:15 PM

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I just want to put this out there..Yes, she was interviewed On Fox, but she knows her stuff.


https://www.newsmax.com/us/betsymcca...r=0101028po09i

Paul Sarvas 04-19-2020 08:00 PM

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I just want to put this out there...They know their stuff.





https://www.mediamatters.org/newsmax






pS

MR DERBY CITY 04-20-2020 09:51 PM

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Another meat processing plant to close, this one in Minnesota. Is it my imagination or is this pandemic moving to the Midwest ? Please wake me up when it’s over.....

farmco r/sa 04-21-2020 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 612834)
Another meat processing plant to close, this one in Minnesota. Is it my imagination or is this pandemic moving to the Midwest ? Please wake me up when it’s over.....


In Colorado there was a meat packing plant called JBS in Greeley with high positive cases and at least one fatality. Closed for a few days last week. Rough stuff.


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