Originally Posted by Bill Grubbs (Post 711046)

I speak for myself and not Brenda.

Well... This Bull$41t. If you cannot shift a stocker on your own you have no business racing stock eliminator. Brenda Shifts her... car on her own (once or possibly twice)... with the front wheels in the air. We were asked by a person/company to run an automated shifter/transmission in the 2000's. We passed on a this and never looked back.

I know it will piss a lot of people off (I speak for myself and not Brenda). I...I believe if you want to run and automated shifter you should have to run what came from the factory. (IE...a Factory ECU). We need to change for the sake of leveling the playing field.

Then there are the "it levels the playing field people." Once again Bull$41T. Fine.. lets go with that. Factory cars have CNC ported heads, some cars have blowers/turbos, some cars have EFI, some factory cars have Comp Eliminator styled pistons, some cars have shorter/longer wheelbases, some cars are smaller, some have more rear overhang, some cars have a plethora of engine choices, some cars are faster, have lighter pistons/rods/crankshafts, some have more cylinders, larger/smaller cylinders, some have better stroke/bore ratios. We need to change for the sake of leveling the playing field.

What about the stick racers... we should give them automated shifters for Lenco drives. I do not know of a stock eliminator stick driver that shifts with the clutch (except when driving around the pits). They tear up way more parts than any other drivers I know. I know one driver that had a trans repaired after...lets just say less than 50 runs. The bill was close to a new transmission. next time he will just order a new trans (granted their car is Bad ***** quick). We need to change for the sake of leveling the playing field.

Where will it stop? Do you have the money to keep up with the proverbial Jonses'. Maybe we should ask the advantaged racers to pay for the upgrades to the disadvantaged races program. You know for the sake of leveling the playing field

If this rule goes into effect...(and from what I am hearing is it has yet to be written in stone), I will begrudgingly adapt (given if it is what the driver wants). But where will the insanity end.

We can make changes for the sake of leveling the playing field, change the class to Bracket 1, and give out participation trophies...or we can race the car we choose (with all the warts, pimples, short cars, tall cars, skinny cars, fat cars, cars with small feet, cars with big feet, black cars , red cars, blue cars, yellow cars, or even white cars... you get to make the choice), and be happy!

Originally Posted by Adub464Q (Post 711116)

I honestly do not care any way.

But I would truly like to see a sound argument against, other than saying it is not the way stock should be or has been over the years.

If that was the case, why were two steps allowed in the early 2000s? If you cannot footbrake your car, you should not be in stock.

The same logic from this thread could be applied to the two step argument but I do not hear anyone out hear beating the drum for disallowing two steps.

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 711105)

Whether or not the new change happens, I'll still be pushing the same buttons I have been since 71.