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Glenn Briglio 10-07-2024 10:07 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 703804)
SS/AH cars don't wheelie too high, but A. Lincoln Morehead's Camaro reaches for the sky every pass and is bad fast. Every car is different, but I must say Calvert bars changed Stock Eliminator forever.

Did you watch the hemi shoot out at Indy this year?

Eric Merryfield 10-07-2024 11:40 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by my69396 (Post 703741)
How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?

Thats going to vary from car/truck to car/truck Its not simple physics at all you also have to consider air drag of the front end versus air drag of the bottom of the car, front wheel drag versus none(during wheelie) offset by wheelie bar wheel drag(if the car has wheelie bars)

In the case of my 10.4-10.60 something truck(which is set up with a 9 inch tire ie stocker build), with no wind, the bigger the wheelie the quicker it is, when it goes into fly and be free mode, its flashing the convertor higher, which reduces the 60 foot on the rear tire time and lands 100-125 feet out there. Good sanhuffs keep it from a bouncing too much. It goes 100% straight every time.....except for TOO big of a wheelie, which will torque steer it a touch onto 1 tire, etc and kill a couple in ET as its going snake like down the track.

There used to be a rule of thumb out there I think maybe in the MP books, something like 10 flat and less more wheelie would be slower due to aero drag, with modern stuff, I think you could get away with 9.30's

Adger Smith 10-08-2024 02:21 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Testing, Testing and more Testing to see what works best with your combination.
Too many different combinations with different variables to say one thing works best.

Spyphish 10-08-2024 08:00 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio (Post 703808)
Did you watch the hemi shoot out at Indy this year?

Comella has his stuff in one sock as we say down South. BIG wheel speed and he pulls 2nd by the tree with the front up about a foot. He wins every race right there. I am sure he test and like I said "it's in one sock". Former Phish

Congrats to him

1320racer 10-08-2024 09:28 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 703794)
Hard to have a meaningful discussion with 1320 around.

translated...can't spew myth, rumor, hearsay and bs on this forum when 1320 states the TRUTH backed by FACTS!

J.R. Haddad 10-08-2024 11:04 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
It is obvious that every combination will have its own characteristics, weight transfer amount vs. wheel spin, two wheels on the ground vs. four, convertors reaction to it all, etc. etc. Serious testing on your own combination will give you the answer. For those not living in the Northeast, you will have to accomplish this without Ed. We know this puts you at a distinct disadvantage, but do the best you can.

J.R.

1320racer 10-08-2024 11:10 AM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
I travel and have helped many bracket and class racers, some which have learned the hard way that the forums typically aren’t the place to get the truth and the facts, rather opinion based on myth, rumor and hearsay from those that think they know or sales pitches from those that stand to make a profit.

That said, THE PROOF IS IN THE PERFORMANCE and my Firebird has it as well the big checks and the Wallys!

Dan Bennett 10-08-2024 12:34 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
I always worked with stick cars, so the converter thing is pretty interesting. I'm going to enjoy trying to figure out what's going on there.

Billy Nees 10-08-2024 12:50 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 703831)
I travel and have helped many bracket and class racers

Ed, I know most of the Racers that you do, name a few.

1320racer 10-08-2024 02:01 PM

Re: ET with and without wheelie.
 
you don't and If they wanted their names here they would have told me. IF you ever see me in person again, ask and I'll tell you.


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